Memo Gate

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Grothesk's picture

We kind of need a little bit of Leftist media to wash down the sewer beans of right wing garbage over this same subject.

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Dagambit's picture

Hopefully they can post anything not on a comedy channel, backed up with failing comedy to boot and no facts. 

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Grothesk's picture

He brought up a few damning points that right wingers don't seem to mention:  this is literally all concocted by a Trump surrogage.  How much are people going to believe John Podesta's scathing e-mail criticizing Trump and Republicans while the FBI decries it as erroneous?  

 

Put the shoe on the other foot and it doesn't fit so well.

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Dagambit's picture

I would like to know what points exactly you think he brought to light?

also, did you read the memo? <-- we have to start here to have a valid discussion.

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Grothesk's picture

Interesting that the "memo gate" is already a dead-in-the-water story.  It barely survived the weekend.

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skeptoid's picture

Dude below is literally flaunting it in your face and you say nothing.

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Grothesk's picture

I'm kind of done with it all.  I come to SpikedNation and I just feel drained.  If it's going to devolve into a right wing cancerous tumor then that is its destiny.  We already have people spam uploading the same video over and over; what's funny is that you and theblackswordsman are buddying up and very obviously spam uploading the same video 3-4 times in a row and yet when I vote a right wing propaganda video down I'm in cahoots with some nebulous group of super friends.  

 

I don't really like quarreling with you and puffemask and FullAutoGal and theblackswordsman and your little legion.  Looking at the recently added section, there's no question who the super friends are.

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skeptoid's picture

Grothesk - this site is a leftist's playground. Nothing right of center gets play here for more than a few hours before being voted down or right off when the Super Friends are on duty. The fact that one Styx video about the memo made the front page was a miracle, and hot on its heals came this new account you've been noticing and commenting about in multiple comment threads. In FullAuto's memo post that just made the front page the owner of the Super Friends account literally came into the comment thread and said "Watch this!" at which point half a dozen downrates hit the vid in a matter of minutes. I haven't had any communication with the Blackswordsman at all, but it shouldn't surprise you if I'm not the only one who isn't going to pretend they don't exist and we're just seeing the "will of the people".

 

Why do you think FullAuto uses the obviously buffed retarded anti-Trump posts that look at his hair, or his gestures, or how he drinks from a bottle of water, or that he slept with a porn star as his vehicle to get the embeds he wants to the front page? He knows that idiotic post, which already makes Trump haters look like embiciles, will carry his trolling and quips along with it to the front page because that's the way things work around here thanks to the super friends. Why do you think embedding was so heavily restricted by the mods and everyone was set back to 0? Do you not remember one of the mods saying it was to "reduce spam". LOL What that mod meant was that it would reduce FullAuto's ability to attach his own memes to the buffed Antifa propaganda that the Super Friends push quickly to top status. Clearly they grossly underestimated FullAuto's commitment to SpikedNation.

 

Grothesk - I can turn SpikedNation into an anti-left, largely rightwing dominated site 24/7 with everything leftwing getting voted off immediately and everything right wing getting immediately voted to the front page. I have simply chosen up to this point NOT to do that. My guess is the blackswordsman is reposting the same vid repeatedly because each time he does for him it's more dye into the petri dish and he feels satisfied knowing the same people - people he don't like too much - are having to put repeated effort into the same tired behavior.

 

When I start using a term like "Super Friends" that's a dog whistle to YOU to start paying attention to what's happening with the site. Instead the fact that a single black pigeon vid is being reposted and rapidly deleted off the site over and over again has you emoting like someone just shot your dog in front of you. If you want to see a SpikedNation that is 24/7 right wing pablum until the veteran mods inevitably shut the site down I can accomodate you. Believe me.

 

And I'm not going to mock you too heavily for your recent run of conspiratorial paranoia because when Berg started up this shit last year I made the false assumption that she had to be using sock accounts while the mods turned a blind eye. It never occured to me that a group of people would work together to conduct gang-rating with a basic level of coordination just to censor discussions they don't think people should be having on the site. I can't relate to that - it didn't occur to me that a group of folks would do that without feeling deeply embarrassed and ashamed by it. But now I understand a lot more about the memes and doctrines that drive the underlying behavior after a year of Jordan Peterson study and watching how Antifa conceives of themselves and operates.

 

It's not sock accounts - it's the Super Friends, and unfortunately they are not me.

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Grothesk's picture

"My guess is the blackswordsman is reposting the same vid repeatedly because each time he does for him it's more dye into the petri dish and he feels satisfied knowing the same people - people he don't like too much - are having to put repeated effort into the same tired behavior."

 

Is that happening 100% of the time all the time?  Are there really no other people who vote upon videos save for you, me, and Berg's 4-5 accounts, in your mind?  I vote on videos very legitimately and I have been since before you even knew what this site was...but apparently I'm in some sort of conspiracy group that I'm not familiar with who tell me how to vote or I tell them how to vote or whatever.  

 

"When I start using a term like "Super Friends" that's a dog whistle to YOU to start paying attention to what's happening with the site."

 

To what end?  What the fuck can I do?  Here you are again ascribing tons of power to me as though I'm some sort of Emperor of SpikedNation.com.  I have ONE vote, I'm not an admin...so what the fuck am I going to do when I see that shit?  YOU have had more accounts than I have, dude.  You have more power than I do.

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skeptoid's picture

Dude - you say you can't do anything, but you're the one that's been dropping a scolding comment as though you're the spokesperson for SpikedNation in each one of his reposts while simultaneously proclaiming in at least two other threads that I'm fucking Berg. Berg doesn't have 4-5 accounts - I just explained to you what's been going on. How have I gotten ahead of YOU on THIS? The mods weren't turning a blind eye to sock accounts - they were turning a blind eye to shallow organized gang-rating to censor along specific ideological lines not least because it's technically not against the rules. At all. I can play that game WAAAAAAAY better than Berg and a few soft touches, but it would forever change the shape of this website and would almost certainly result in its eventual termination. So I refrain.

 

You were the one that first pointed out TheWiz1950's speech patterns that led me to dig and figure that TheWiz1950 was Berg. I was the first person to post the Black Pigeon vid - I did it after midnight because I had noticed Berg was back with his friends in the aftermath of some right-wing memo posts making it to the front page. I needed to confirm it, and that simpleton and his sad crew of drones rarely disappoint in terms of predictability. Blackswordsman likely saw, as I did, the standard 4-5 1 stars in rapid succession that indicate the signature of the Super Friends. I would have expected you to take notice and comment on it, especially once what I have to assume is Berg's latest incarnation started squawking. Instead LOL it was the "will of the people" - yeah the people from Australia and New Zealand LOL. And you're confused about the identity of an assclown with an account that uses my recently-devised label for the idiots who only participate here to shut down conversations they don't like? An account called Super Friends is literally flaunting what I'm talking about in your face and through what I can only assume is cognitive dissonance you become "almost certain" that it's me using a sock account?

 

LOL This is actually funny on multiple levels, and I'm not really that bothered about it. Is this the moment where you realize that I may not be COMPLETELY out to lunch with my complaints about abusing the mechanisms of this website to excercise ideological censorship and control of its contents? The constant dousing of interesting conversations by soft touches who are so ideologically possessed that they demand no discussion be had at all? You remind me right now of that Dean of Evergreen College who failed to realize his campus was being overrun by a small groups of EXTREMELY LOUD mentally disturbed ideologues. He let racists shut down the college campus, putting it on lockdown, and then ordered the police not to do anything about it as the entire institution fell to ruin. Now I know you're not the Dean of SpikedNation, but you've taken it upon yourself to excercise a certain amount of instructive authority here and I'm sure there's something you can contribute.

 

As for the Deep State video - yes I'm tired of seeing it posted too. That's the dark side, and once down the dark path you walk forever will it dominate your destiny.

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Grothesk's picture

TBH, I can completely see *YOU* being the person behind the SUPER FRIENDS account, which is why you keep waggling your dick about in your posts saying, "oh, I could absolutely rape this site but I'm a good guy so I don't".  How the fuck do we know you're not?  I've seen you melt down and chase users from this site AND I've seen you create multiple accounts as well.  The issue is that there is no proof of who is doing what; so all we can do is accuse some amorphous entity when it happens...kind of like Russiagate, amIrightfellas?  

 

There is actively nothing I can do about the state of SpikedNation.com except for what I've always done:  I vote on videos and I comment.  That's going to rile a lot of people up, such as you, but it's what I've been doing for close to a decade now and it's still relatively entertaining....but you may as well wield your awesome power in your divine scepter and destroy this site because all you're doing at the moment is maiming it.

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skeptoid's picture

Okay now you just trolling or drunk. I'll wait until whatever new meds you are on kick in but once again no I am not the Super Friends. LOL

 

It's really funny that there is actualky a person who's made it their business to maim this site and literally brags about it to your face and your response is dissonance. I'm starting to wonder if you may be 90% dissonance.

 

Now I'll give you one chance to indicate even one way that I have been maiming the site. You really think I have the power to melt down and chase other users off the site? Do you really think that I would command a small group of people to vote in a specific way that reflects the opposite of my beliefs just to confuse you? Ya that's loony tunes especially for you. You're supposed to be the more grounded of us both - you're screwing with the fabric of reality here Groth.

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Grothesk's picture

"Okay now you just trolling or drunk. I'll wait until whatever new meds you are on kick in but once again no I am not the Super Friends. LOL"

I've read this exact statement before from DonkeyPunch when accused of having multiple accounts.  Oh, Lordy be...

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skeptoid's picture

Now you're getting warm - yes Grothesk. I will admit it here. I am Eh, and have been trolling this site using that account for many months. Yes I was the previous incarnations as well - Donkeypunch, occulicity, etc. I've been running a social experiment for several years using the "eh" account and its previous incarnations as my main sock, and then using multiple additional accounts to quickly push leftist content to the front page so I can complain about it "as skeptoid" and sow chaos and confusion on the site while I sit back and just laugh my ass off. Probably one of the greatest LARP troll performances in Internet history, and you finally figured it out. 

 

Putting the ridiculous aside, I actually can't say that the Super Friends account is Berg. It could be Daftcunt for all I know. Definitely not me though.

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Grothesk's picture

My point went a bit over your head, it appears.  I just showed you how anyone can accuse anyone of anything and there's absolutely nothing to back it up.  DonkeyPunch responded in the exact same way as you did...because that is the natural response.  You seem to miss the irony here that the tables have completely turned.

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I think you put movies on in your head to which I don't have access. PGFL was the dude who proved who eh was - he did it using the tracking tab at the old site which no longer functions here (truncated). Granted, his evidence was entirely circumstantial, but it would have to be that way without a confession. I'll reiterate again that you won't get one from either of them. I'll reiterate again that the one time I used a sock account I told everyone about it. You seem to misunderstand my issue here - dishonest manipulation of this website along ideological lines. 

 

But cleary SUPER FRIENDS is someone we know, and based on the little we have so far it looks more like Berg than anyone else. I don't see how you could "prove" who is who when dealing with a dishonest troll. So your point is rather obvious. And all you're doing right now is trying to spin away from the issue at the heart of this controversy, which is your standard goto. In addition, you just admitted I was right about you just trolling - we both knew you were because your suggestion was ridiculous. Mine is not. See the difference?

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