i honestly cannot vote on this nor comment reasonably until this dude: A) takes off the glasses and puts on a goddamn shirt! or B) gets a fucking haircut and PUTS on a GoDdAMn SHIRT!!! (this is really sad considering my hair is just as long as his...) ...image is everything....and it's a good motherfucking thing i dont wanna be taken seriously, because then i'd wear my glasses, take off my shirt while posting political rants on youpube....then i'd look just like this guy.! i hate to admit this, but i serously cant get past his 'look' ...(and please excuse this 'white on white' racism') ...regardelss of whatever side he stands for...it's always a 'negative' because its people like THIS that make EVERYONE look bad...no matter what side youre on
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Raining Blood (Long Spike)
this wont make any change. canada supplies lumber and steel to both mexico and the us.
It's closer so it's a cheap shipment, but canada is not even in the top 10 for steel producers.
U.S. produces more. There is also India, Japan, Brazil, and South Korea among people willing to trade.
The U.S. has options.
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Raining Blood (Long Spike)
options? the usa and canada have had a soft lumber dispute going since 1982. america buys it, complains about the price, taxes it. goes to court over it and looses. nothin has changed. american end users end up paying the extra.
how many steel producers were also scrap steel importers before the cost of steel increased? how many of those countries could double there production meet what canada was producing? you make it sound like you can just pick up the phone and order 1.5 million metric tons of steel.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Canada does not ship 1.5 million metric tons to U.S.
See for yourself. YTD 2018 is just over 1/4 of that.
Instead of ordering that much steel from one country. Order it from a few. Lot's of nations are hungry to make some money with the U.S.
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sal9000 (Long Spike)
he's on vacation with the fam, so you get me.
according to your link. canada produces a shitload of steel exports
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america's looking pretty red there.
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add the blue and the green and the purple from the graph on the left for YTD 2018. then add 2 more months(july and august), what number do you end up with? 1.5?
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add those numbers and you're getting close to the 6 million metric tons the very first graphic on page 1 shows. if you take 6 mmt and devide it by 4 to represtent the years quarter you get 1.5 million metric tons.
america already get's its steel from a few countries, about 10. the problem is some countries don't produce the type of steel america wants.
asking other countries to pick up the slack is literally asking them to double production or go into production with no guarenty that the canadian/american dispute lasts. as for logistics. it takes weeks for a container ship to make the journey from south korea. 20+ from germany, a 30+ from india. that doesnt count the days the ship was sitting in port being filled. or the days it took to unload and and transport the product from the port to its destination. now imagine delays in production i.e backorder. its a "pay me now or pay me later" situation
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(Long Spike)
i honestly cannot vote on this nor comment reasonably until this dude: A) takes off the glasses and puts on a goddamn shirt! or B) gets a fucking haircut and PUTS on a GoDdAMn SHIRT!!! (this is really sad considering my hair is just as long as his...) ...image is everything....and it's a good motherfucking thing i dont wanna be taken seriously, because then i'd wear my glasses, take off my shirt while posting political rants on youpube....then i'd look just like this guy.! i hate to admit this, but i serously cant get past his 'look' ...(and please excuse this 'white on white' racism') ...regardelss of whatever side he stands for...it's always a 'negative' because its people like THIS that make EVERYONE look bad...no matter what side youre on
(Long Spike)
this wont make any change. canada supplies lumber and steel to both mexico and the us.
https://www.wkrn.com/news/tennessee-news/senator-alexander-new-nafta-deal-without-canada-hurts-tn-auto-industry/1402618404
(Old Spike)
It's closer so it's a cheap shipment, but canada is not even in the top 10 for steel producers.
U.S. produces more. There is also India, Japan, Brazil, and South Korea among people willing to trade.
The U.S. has options.
(Long Spike)
options? the usa and canada have had a soft lumber dispute going since 1982. america buys it, complains about the price, taxes it. goes to court over it and looses. nothin has changed. american end users end up paying the extra.
how many steel producers were also scrap steel importers before the cost of steel increased? how many of those countries could double there production meet what canada was producing? you make it sound like you can just pick up the phone and order 1.5 million metric tons of steel.
(Old Spike)
Canada does not ship 1.5 million metric tons to U.S.
See for yourself. YTD 2018 is just over 1/4 of that.
https://www.trade.gov/steel/countries/pdfs/exports-Canada.pdf
Instead of ordering that much steel from one country. Order it from a few. Lot's of nations are hungry to make some money with the U.S.
(Long Spike)
he's on vacation with the fam, so you get me.
according to your link. canada produces a shitload of steel exports
page #1
america's looking pretty red there.
page #2
add the blue and the green and the purple from the graph on the left for YTD 2018. then add 2 more months(july and august), what number do you end up with? 1.5?
page #5
add those numbers and you're getting close to the 6 million metric tons the very first graphic on page 1 shows. if you take 6 mmt and devide it by 4 to represtent the years quarter you get 1.5 million metric tons.
america already get's its steel from a few countries, about 10. the problem is some countries don't produce the type of steel america wants.
asking other countries to pick up the slack is literally asking them to double production or go into production with no guarenty that the canadian/american dispute lasts. as for logistics. it takes weeks for a container ship to make the journey from south korea. 20+ from germany, a 30+ from india. that doesnt count the days the ship was sitting in port being filled. or the days it took to unload and and transport the product from the port to its destination. now imagine delays in production i.e backorder. its a "pay me now or pay me later" situation