Fakenews, that's 27 years - the years of Mao. An interesting period to say the least.
Watched the first 45 mins. Seems to just focus on the mistakes eg. the backyard steal production & the grain harvest debacles. It doesn't mention the CIA backing of the Tibetan uprising, nor any of the achievements during the period eg. Healthcare & education reform.
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
Your wu mao skills are weak, grasshopper. Know your subject and the truth will find you. It's actually a 6 hour documentary that covers the history of China in the 20th century. It is an excellent documentary and a must-watch. This is just part 2 "The Mao Years". Part 1 is "China In Revolution". Part 3 is "Born Under The Red Flag". You will be under observation going forward for your poor wu mao skills, so be careful.
This may be a "must watch" for someone who knows nothing about 20th century Chinese history but it's barely skin deep from what I've seen & is told from an American perspective.
For real Chinese history, these sources are the best I know of:
FYI: There are very few rules here but 1 is: don't piss off the admins. I dgaf what you have to say on any topic but continuously trolling admins is a way to go into timeout. Drop the wu mao bullshit, this is your only warning.
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
Triggered mate? Lighten up.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
No, not at all. Constant trolling from someone acting like a 12 yo is exactly the kind of convo I look forward to on this site.
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lawngnome (Long Spike)
China has been around for 3000 years, yet the USA makes all their problems... mmkay.
And chill bro, free speech is allowed here. Government-paid propaganda agents are not, however.
Edit: I'm not trolling.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
Nobody's accusing America of creating all of China's problems. Their biggest international dillema atm though is the trade war initiated by Trump but the "pivot to Asia" (containment of China) was started under Obama.
Tell me where absolute free speech exists.
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lawngnome (Long Spike)
I already screenshotted your threat about taking down the site.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
It wasn't a threat to take down the site it was a threat against anyone who wants to try to label me as a paid government agent. I don't think it's a lot to ask for all the time & $ I've contributed. Maybe if you guys want you can create a post or forum thread dedicated to hashing out that topic, srsly I don't mind & invite the open discussion. But the trolling won't be tolerated.
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
Just to understand, associating you with the 50 Cent Army of paid Chinese government trolls in jest because you have promoted China as great constantly is "Crossing the red line"? Go easy Dinmin.
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lawngnome (Long Spike)
WE'VE worked too hard on this site.
I put him on a timeout until he can explain why he made a threat to take down the site and kick monkeymania.
Just a precautionary measure.
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lawngnome (Long Spike)
Ahhh, you're back. My admin privileges are gone.
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lawngnome (Long Spike)
Can't edit. my screen shots are gone. I already sent them to Nakey.
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lawngnome (Long Spike)
Hey, look. I can edit stuff too in order to not look so bad also!
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
You've made a comment that acknowledges my explanation (that it was never a threat to take the site down)... and in the same comment you claim you blocked my account as a "precautionary measure". That's deceitful & IMO shows you're a liability but your account status will be discussed by the admins. You are now a Member. Not sure what you can do with that status...probably not much.
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lawngnome (Long Spike)
Dude, you were making threats about banning people and "bye bye to the site". Fuck yeah I blocked you from the site and woke Nakey up.
You've been mad pro china and we've been poking at it. This just adds fuel to the fire man...
I didn't even know you were a commie until the train social credit discussion.
We talk openly here and don't like admins to overstep their positions. You said yourself you were triggered and then your timeout/kick talk came out.
YOU were being crude, editing your posts and covering your tracks.
Where are my screenshots that you've deleted twice now? cough cough , fuck china.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
Don't troll the admins, it's not rocket science.
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
Dinmin, you posted a bunch of "China is great" videos in a row. I pointed it out and brought up some negatives about it. I'd have no problem if someone pointed out that a bunch of my videos in a row were how great China is. I've been there. It isn't all sunshine and rainbows. I loved parts of it but there are problems. The police state, lack of free speech, and pollution to name a few. The guy who spent 10 years in China pointed out some valid arguments but I haven't been there for 10 years myself, though I've heard some disturbing things.
Personally, I disliked the insane overpopulation and the way people were just packed together. That's just me, I like things to be more open spaced. Your reaction has been bizarre. I've seen much more agressive wordplay on here and things end in a verbal handshake not "I'm gonna ban you!" comments. Everything OK?
**my reply was to a comment you have now removed.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
Where are all these "China is great" videos you say I've posted monkey?
I've just looked at the latest ~500 videos and there's not even 1.
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
I was way out of bounds. You would never remove them, then comment that you didn't post anything like that. You don't post anything that blasts that China is great and anyone who insinuates that it isn't is crazy. I made it up just to get you going. It worked. Let it go. Keep up your perfect record of never posting anything that promotes the PRC though and don't make people who post content "go bye bye".
You looked at the latest 500 videos? Impressive.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
I haven't deleted any posts man you're off your rocker. There are daily backups that prove this.
Congrats on triggering me with the wu mao BS. Truce?
I'm keen to chat offline with u anytime on skype/steam/discord if u like. There are a couple things I gotta be clear about regardless...
1. Nobody wants this site to become an echo chamber.
2. You ought welcome other people's opinions to test the strength of your own.
3. The threat to temp-ban you was a little empty because it has to go thru the admins & is a rarity, plus you contribute popular stuff here so it would be hard to make the case without at least giving a proper warning first.
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lawngnome (Long Spike)
Fuel to the fire
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lawngnome (Long Spike)
Yeah.. We're not trolling the admins, It's accusations that you may be 50 cent. or affiliated.
I'm in California... Where have you been?
The censorship just now, demoting me, saying china can't be talked about, hostility, editing your comments, and covering your tracks REALLY helps your case...
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All but one of his replies are untampered, and what's there is nothing like what was originally said.
Comments
(Long Spike)
Wu Mao will crush you!
(Long Spike)
Ahh, loyalism under fear.
Mao had mad stinky dick btw. https://youtu.be/qCFybMi8hm8
(Long Spike)
Bowing to Mao
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/xi-bows-mao-zedong-communist-china-70th-anniversary-190930040732173.html
(Old Spike)
"China A Century of Revolution - 1949-1976"
Fakenews, that's 27 years - the years of Mao. An interesting period to say the least.
Watched the first 45 mins. Seems to just focus on the mistakes eg. the backyard steal production & the grain harvest debacles. It doesn't mention the CIA backing of the Tibetan uprising, nor any of the achievements during the period eg. Healthcare & education reform.
(Long Spike)
Your wu mao skills are weak, grasshopper. Know your subject and the truth will find you. It's actually a 6 hour documentary that covers the history of China in the 20th century. It is an excellent documentary and a must-watch. This is just part 2 "The Mao Years". Part 1 is "China In Revolution". Part 3 is "Born Under The Red Flag". You will be under observation going forward for your poor wu mao skills, so be careful.
http://ambrica.com/china-a-century-of-revolution/
(Old Spike)
This may be a "must watch" for someone who knows nothing about 20th century Chinese history but it's barely skin deep from what I've seen & is told from an American perspective.
For real Chinese history, these sources are the best I know of:
Laszlo Montgomery's China History podcast [link]
Carl Zha's Patreon (most content is free) [link]
FYI: There are very few rules here but 1 is: don't piss off the admins. I dgaf what you have to say on any topic but continuously trolling admins is a way to go into timeout. Drop the wu mao bullshit, this is your only warning.
(Long Spike)
Triggered mate? Lighten up.
(Old Spike)
No, not at all. Constant trolling from someone acting like a 12 yo is exactly the kind of convo I look forward to on this site.
(Long Spike)
China has been around for 3000 years, yet the USA makes all their problems... mmkay.
And chill bro, free speech is allowed here. Government-paid propaganda agents are not, however.
Edit: I'm not trolling.
(Old Spike)
Nobody's accusing America of creating all of China's problems. Their biggest international dillema atm though is the trade war initiated by Trump but the "pivot to Asia" (containment of China) was started under Obama.
Tell me where absolute free speech exists.
(Long Spike)
I already screenshotted your threat about taking down the site.
(Old Spike)
It wasn't a threat to take down the site it was a threat against anyone who wants to try to label me as a paid government agent. I don't think it's a lot to ask for all the time & $ I've contributed. Maybe if you guys want you can create a post or forum thread dedicated to hashing out that topic, srsly I don't mind & invite the open discussion. But the trolling won't be tolerated.
(Long Spike)
Just to understand, associating you with the 50 Cent Army of paid Chinese government trolls in jest because you have promoted China as great constantly is "Crossing the red line"? Go easy Dinmin.
(Long Spike)
WE'VE worked too hard on this site.
I put him on a timeout until he can explain why he made a threat to take down the site and kick monkeymania.
Just a precautionary measure.
(Long Spike)
Ahhh, you're back. My admin privileges are gone.
(Long Spike)
Can't edit. my screen shots are gone. I already sent them to Nakey.
(Long Spike)
Hey, look. I can edit stuff too in order to not look so bad also!
(Old Spike)
You've made a comment that acknowledges my explanation (that it was never a threat to take the site down)... and in the same comment you claim you blocked my account as a "precautionary measure". That's deceitful & IMO shows you're a liability but your account status will be discussed by the admins. You are now a Member. Not sure what you can do with that status...probably not much.
(Long Spike)
Dude, you were making threats about banning people and "bye bye to the site". Fuck yeah I blocked you from the site and woke Nakey up.
You've been mad pro china and we've been poking at it. This just adds fuel to the fire man...
I didn't even know you were a commie until the train social credit discussion.
We talk openly here and don't like admins to overstep their positions. You said yourself you were triggered and then your timeout/kick talk came out.
YOU were being crude, editing your posts and covering your tracks.
Where are my screenshots that you've deleted twice now? cough cough , fuck china.
(Old Spike)
Don't troll the admins, it's not rocket science.
(Long Spike)
Dinmin, you posted a bunch of "China is great" videos in a row. I pointed it out and brought up some negatives about it. I'd have no problem if someone pointed out that a bunch of my videos in a row were how great China is. I've been there. It isn't all sunshine and rainbows. I loved parts of it but there are problems. The police state, lack of free speech, and pollution to name a few. The guy who spent 10 years in China pointed out some valid arguments but I haven't been there for 10 years myself, though I've heard some disturbing things.
Personally, I disliked the insane overpopulation and the way people were just packed together. That's just me, I like things to be more open spaced. Your reaction has been bizarre. I've seen much more agressive wordplay on here and things end in a verbal handshake not "I'm gonna ban you!" comments. Everything OK?
**my reply was to a comment you have now removed.
(Old Spike)
Where are all these "China is great" videos you say I've posted monkey?
I've just looked at the latest ~500 videos and there's not even 1.
(Long Spike)
I was way out of bounds. You would never remove them, then comment that you didn't post anything like that. You don't post anything that blasts that China is great and anyone who insinuates that it isn't is crazy. I made it up just to get you going. It worked. Let it go. Keep up your perfect record of never posting anything that promotes the PRC though and don't make people who post content "go bye bye".
You looked at the latest 500 videos? Impressive.
(Old Spike)
I haven't deleted any posts man you're off your rocker. There are daily backups that prove this.
Congrats on triggering me with the wu mao BS. Truce?
I'm keen to chat offline with u anytime on skype/steam/discord if u like. There are a couple things I gotta be clear about regardless...
1. Nobody wants this site to become an echo chamber.
2. You ought welcome other people's opinions to test the strength of your own.
3. The threat to temp-ban you was a little empty because it has to go thru the admins & is a rarity, plus you contribute popular stuff here so it would be hard to make the case without at least giving a proper warning first.
(Long Spike)
Fuel to the fire
(Long Spike)
Yeah.. We're not trolling the admins, It's accusations that you may be 50 cent. or affiliated.
I'm in California... Where have you been?
The censorship just now, demoting me, saying china can't be talked about, hostility, editing your comments, and covering your tracks REALLY helps your case...
(Long Spike)
All but one of his replies are untampered, and what's there is nothing like what was originally said.
(Long Spike)
https://imgur.com/gallery/fKzyeB7