totally normal to cover up a bomb's identifying markers with a towel & pour water on it as you're defusing it
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
its a fab-500, same one that russia used during the syrian war. he most likely had tools with him to get to the point where he can just unscrew the fuze. where do you think he would have kept those? on the ground where they can collect dirt or metal peices. ontop of the bomb right neer the fuze, or on a tarp thats tapped down so it wouldnt slip off and have it at arm length away? maybe the water works as lub or keeps the dust down or as a cushion incase he accidentaly taps the side while unscrewing the fuze and removes it
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danman (Site Administrator)
hmm you may have a point there about the type of bomb it is & there seems to be evidence of Russia using some of those based on my 30 seconds of research. Well done. +5 social credit points, I'll deduct it from your massive debt.
as for "you don't really use enemy weapons or ordnance"
Ukraine airforce is effectively grounded so unguided bombs like this would be too much risk for f-all reward. Maybe useful for making an IED or could drop it from a cheap drone?
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
possibly ofzab-500
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danman (Site Administrator)
actually I take back those social credit points, they're in escrow now.
there's some indication that Ukraine has these things and that setup looks propaganda-ish
the water & towel still doesn't make sense to me, why cover up the id markers
this seems like a bit of a waste to spend time on & I've not been able to verify Russia using FAB-500 yet. FAB-250 yes but those look a bit different to this bomb.
waste of time because I don't dispute Russia's used some unguided bombs or that some failed to detonate. Whether this video is staged or not makes f-all difference.
have your people call my people & they'll release your social credit points.
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
you can keep your social credit scores. i'm not a chinaboo, i won't need them
this bomb weights 500kg. no drones carrying that. ukraine doesn't have the planes. russia's used them
their from a shot down airplaine. they found three that day
the picture above and the one thats being diffues have numbers in series 30-18 and 31-18
they also found another in a different town. serial numbers are only one side
just remember that 140 tu-141 drones were made and all of them weren't in ukraine when the ussr collapsed. so russia's got those too
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danman (Site Administrator)
last one is a FAB-250 afaik, I'm pretty sure RF is using these, from drones & possibly from jets.
there's been a number of things that have happened that made me think Russia's throwing in a fair amount of cheap crap, maybe just to use it up?
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
the last one. does it look like this?
cause thats a fab-250. notice how they look different?
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
in fact. if you zoom in on the last one. it says 500
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danman (Site Administrator)
I don't see 500 on the last one & there are different shapes of the 250 for the different variants.
looking at the 250 & 500 pics on wikipedia they both have same shape but the tail of the 500 matches the last pic.
I'll let you off the hook with the hiding of serial numbers & dusty explination for using water for defusing.. your social credit points have been deducted from your debt obligations.
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(Site Administrator)
totally normal to cover up a bomb's identifying markers with a towel & pour water on it as you're defusing it
(Old Spike)
its a fab-500, same one that russia used during the syrian war. he most likely had tools with him to get to the point where he can just unscrew the fuze. where do you think he would have kept those? on the ground where they can collect dirt or metal peices. ontop of the bomb right neer the fuze, or on a tarp thats tapped down so it wouldnt slip off and have it at arm length away? maybe the water works as lub or keeps the dust down or as a cushion incase he accidentaly taps the side while unscrewing the fuze and removes it
(Site Administrator)
hmm you may have a point there about the type of bomb it is & there seems to be evidence of Russia using some of those based on my 30 seconds of research. Well done. +5 social credit points, I'll deduct it from your massive debt.
as for "you don't really use enemy weapons or ordnance"
Ukraine airforce is effectively grounded so unguided bombs like this would be too much risk for f-all reward. Maybe useful for making an IED or could drop it from a cheap drone?
(Old Spike)
possibly ofzab-500
(Site Administrator)
actually I take back those social credit points, they're in escrow now.
there's some indication that Ukraine has these things and that setup looks propaganda-ish
https://twitter.com/Hamburg53093540/status/1502678663468302336
the water & towel still doesn't make sense to me, why cover up the id markers
this seems like a bit of a waste to spend time on & I've not been able to verify Russia using FAB-500 yet. FAB-250 yes but those look a bit different to this bomb.
waste of time because I don't dispute Russia's used some unguided bombs or that some failed to detonate. Whether this video is staged or not makes f-all difference.
have your people call my people & they'll release your social credit points.
(Old Spike)
you can keep your social credit scores. i'm not a chinaboo, i won't need them
this bomb weights 500kg. no drones carrying that. ukraine doesn't have the planes. russia's used them
their from a shot down airplaine. they found three that day
the picture above and the one thats being diffues have numbers in series 30-18 and 31-18
they also found another in a different town. serial numbers are only one side
just remember that 140 tu-141 drones were made and all of them weren't in ukraine when the ussr collapsed. so russia's got those too
(Site Administrator)
last one is a FAB-250 afaik, I'm pretty sure RF is using these, from drones & possibly from jets.
there's been a number of things that have happened that made me think Russia's throwing in a fair amount of cheap crap, maybe just to use it up?
(Old Spike)
the last one. does it look like this?
cause thats a fab-250. notice how they look different?
(Old Spike)
in fact. if you zoom in on the last one. it says 500
(Site Administrator)
I don't see 500 on the last one & there are different shapes of the 250 for the different variants.
looking at the 250 & 500 pics on wikipedia they both have same shape but the tail of the 500 matches the last pic.
I'll let you off the hook with the hiding of serial numbers & dusty explination for using water for defusing.. your social credit points have been deducted from your debt obligations.
(Old Spike)
didn't see it? did you try looking?
the 250 is smaller and it looks different