It's almost as if they had found a way to make the rock temporarily softer and easier to work.
*Edit* And btw this is by no means an endorsement of the alien conspiracy theories out there. I only mean that they might have developped a technique that had been lost and haven't been rediscovered yet.
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backdraft (Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
Thats what some people claim.
The idea is they could temporarily change the molecular structure of the rock, so it was easier to work with.
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
thats crazy talk. people forget how long we've been around and how much you can get done with slaves.
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backdraft (Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
I don't know how they did it, but heres some food for thought. Copper ain't that great for granite.
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
copper can be recycle and would have been back then. having a few modern old men chip away at a stone gives no real insight into what it would have been for you only to have ever had copper chisles , and your father before your and his... only had copper chisles.the skills developed and passed has no comparison to todays methods.
when they build a house today, its done within the year. that time doesn't include the actual time it took to go out into the woods and chop down trees to make 2x4's. the time it took to ground down rocks to make cement for the foundation and all that jazz. if houses were made to order it would take a lot longer than a year to build. imagine companies existing back then that made pyramids, or atleast carves stones meant for it. when a pharoe decides he wants a pyramid, they got a good chunk of the work done before hand
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backdraft (Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
"copper can be recycle and would have been back then."
As they did here too.
"having a few modern old men chip away at a stone gives no real insight into what it would have been for you only to have ever had copper chisles..."
Sure there a technique involved, but I think the point they were demonstrating is that copper is pretty shitty tool even on softer limestone, not to mention granite. Chipping away 2.5 million blocks that are all "custom fit" in their own place is no small task with that kind of tools. There's also the other +100 pyramids that had to be built in some kind of reasonable time frame.
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
you can get alot done with slaves
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sato (Old Spike)
exactly. and also just plain old laborers, tens to hundreds of thousands of them. egypt was the richest kingdom of the ancient age, and was also extremely fertile. farmers were busy only a short time of the year harvesting their crops, and for the rest of the time while they were waiting for them to grow, they worked, either fighting in wars or as laborers, whatever the pharoah was currently paying for.
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backdraft (Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
Wonder if anyone has done any calculations on what kind of man hours was needed to build all the pyramids and what kind of work force was available to them. Of course its a big guesstimate but would give some idea if they actually line up.
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thegent (Old Spike)
one block cut and put in place every 2 minutes..no way..no matter how many slaves you have..
1170 workers in the stone quarries(3 quarries gets you the required stones in 10 years) 1290 skippers on the Nile(569 stone were shipped daily from tura and giza quarries) 1020 workers for the land transport(harbor to building yard) 1320 workers in the building yard and at the foot of the pyramid(polishing and moving) 880 workers on the pyramid flank(moving it to the proper height) 200 additional workers for transporting the granite blocks(40-50 ton stones) 820 workers to position the stone blocks on the pyramid plateau
6700 workers total
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backdraft (Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
"Using the usual methods where stones are levered with wooden beams from the bedrock a team of 8 men can lever 2 to 3 stones per hour."
"For a standard size stone (stone blocks from the Giza quarries) a stonemason needed about 4 to 5 hours with good tools."
Yeah would really like to know what they base this speed on. Calculations on a chalkboard or did they actually do some real-world tests.
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skeptoid (Old Spike)
We talked about this very subject extensively on the UFO Proof live stream last night. Really interesting. Graham Hancock anyone? I wonder how many times Zion has been destroyed.
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Hisoka (Short Spike)
Oh, i love you, you insane, hopeless, batshit crazy motherfuckers!
This kinda tinfoil shit always makes my day
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skeptoid (Old Spike)
So much so that you used bold style. Dude there's an entire internet of this shit to keep you in a permanent state of ecstasy. LOL
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TheWeirdo (cool)
Nah, man.
Alienz.
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Ozmen (Long Spike)
There is an unfortunate tendency to write and read history as a steady progress when in truth it is indeed a cycle of rising, forming more complex and organized societies which collapse only for the cycle to begin anew. With the people sometimes having gained a bit more knowledge in the last attempt to help them that much farther along in their newest attempt.
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(Short Spike)
It's almost as if they had found a way to make the rock temporarily softer and easier to work.
*Edit* And btw this is by no means an endorsement of the alien conspiracy theories out there. I only mean that they might have developped a technique that had been lost and haven't been rediscovered yet.
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
Thats what some people claim.
The idea is they could temporarily change the molecular structure of the rock, so it was easier to work with.
(Old Spike)
thats crazy talk. people forget how long we've been around and how much you can get done with slaves.
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
I don't know how they did it, but heres some food for thought. Copper ain't that great for granite.
(Old Spike)
copper can be recycle and would have been back then. having a few modern old men chip away at a stone gives no real insight into what it would have been for you only to have ever had copper chisles , and your father before your and his... only had copper chisles.the skills developed and passed has no comparison to todays methods.
when they build a house today, its done within the year. that time doesn't include the actual time it took to go out into the woods and chop down trees to make 2x4's. the time it took to ground down rocks to make cement for the foundation and all that jazz. if houses were made to order it would take a lot longer than a year to build. imagine companies existing back then that made pyramids, or atleast carves stones meant for it. when a pharoe decides he wants a pyramid, they got a good chunk of the work done before hand
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
"copper can be recycle and would have been back then."
As they did here too.
"having a few modern old men chip away at a stone gives no real insight into what it would have been for you only to have ever had copper chisles..."
Sure there a technique involved, but I think the point they were demonstrating is that copper is pretty shitty tool even on softer limestone, not to mention granite. Chipping away 2.5 million blocks that are all "custom fit" in their own place is no small task with that kind of tools. There's also the other +100 pyramids that had to be built in some kind of reasonable time frame.
(Old Spike)
you can get alot done with slaves
(Old Spike)
exactly. and also just plain old laborers, tens to hundreds of thousands of them. egypt was the richest kingdom of the ancient age, and was also extremely fertile. farmers were busy only a short time of the year harvesting their crops, and for the rest of the time while they were waiting for them to grow, they worked, either fighting in wars or as laborers, whatever the pharoah was currently paying for.
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
Wonder if anyone has done any calculations on what kind of man hours was needed to build all the pyramids and what kind of work force was available to them. Of course its a big guesstimate but would give some idea if they actually line up.
(Old Spike)
one block cut and put in place every 2 minutes..no way..no matter how many slaves you have..
(Old Spike)
https://www.cheops-pyramide.ch/khufu-pyramid/pyramid-workers.html
gives some numbers of the men required
in short.
1170 workers in the stone quarries(3 quarries gets you the required stones in 10 years)
1290 skippers on the Nile(569 stone were shipped daily from tura and giza quarries)
1020 workers for the land transport(harbor to building yard)
1320 workers in the building yard and at the foot of the pyramid(polishing and moving)
880 workers on the pyramid flank(moving it to the proper height)
200 additional workers for transporting the granite blocks(40-50 ton stones)
820 workers to position the stone blocks on the pyramid plateau
6700 workers total
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
"Using the usual methods where stones are levered with wooden beams from the bedrock a team of 8 men can lever 2 to 3 stones per hour."
"For a standard size stone (stone blocks from the Giza quarries) a stonemason needed about 4 to 5 hours with good tools."
Yeah would really like to know what they base this speed on. Calculations on a chalkboard or did they actually do some real-world tests.
(Old Spike)
We talked about this very subject extensively on the UFO Proof live stream last night. Really interesting. Graham Hancock anyone? I wonder how many times Zion has been destroyed.
(Short Spike)
Oh, i love you, you insane, hopeless, batshit crazy motherfuckers!
This kinda tinfoil shit always makes my day
(Old Spike)
So much so that you used bold style. Dude there's an entire internet of this shit to keep you in a permanent state of ecstasy. LOL
(cool)
Nah, man.
Alienz.
(Long Spike)
There is an unfortunate tendency to write and read history as a steady progress when in truth it is indeed a cycle of rising, forming more complex and organized societies which collapse only for the cycle to begin anew. With the people sometimes having gained a bit more knowledge in the last attempt to help them that much farther along in their newest attempt.