20k+ people dead, most of them children, the vast majority of course civillians? no? whatabout talks between israel and congo to "relocate" "gazans" there? still no?
(5 votes)
What is YOUR definition of ethnic cleansing?
20k+ people dead, most of them children, the vast majority of course civillians? no? whatabout talks between israel and congo to "relocate" "gazans" there? still no?
Comments
(Old Spike)
so when a 13 year old points an rpg on you....wait he's not a man yet? Can't engage?!.......most of them children?
(Old Spike)
so you think israel is squeeky clean and doing everything right?
(Long Spike)
I am sure that if Israel was turned over to Hamas a just and fair and final solution for the Jews would be found.
(Old Spike)
But it hasn't. Do you always measure yourself against the worst? Shouldn't ESPECIALLY israel "know better"?
(Site Administrator)
(Old Spike)
lol, you learned nothing. You were too chicken to comment as yet but it would be interesting to know the opinion of "a christian" on what is an acceptable defense and when ethnic cleansing starts.......
Or doesn't it matter because the people killed are arabs and mostly muslim?
(Site Administrator)
lol. 'too chciken to comment'. Reminds me of the last guy that assumed we all hung round here waiting for the opportunity to respond to his rantings. daddy chill.
Obviously I was too subtle above and you didn't get my point. Israel is exibiting all the signs of battered wife sydrome. So again..
Israel to Germany:
Or did you think they walked away from WW2 only learning that
(Old Spike)
I have been saying for years that they learned the wrong lesson from the holocaust, people laughed.
You seem to support their actions. Christians were also "in bed" with hitler btw.
(Long Spike)
Numbers 31:17 ect.
(Site Administrator)
When Europe tried to eat itself I'd imagine there were Christians on both sides. Fortunately the Nazis were non-denominative and offered gainful employment to the Atheist sect also. The bit about Jews learning the wrong lesson is kinda rich coming from you. 'Turn the other cheek' being what you're proposing I suppose. What, you're citing Jesus now?
(Old Spike)
Why is it "rich coming from me"?
Do you actually think that israel does the right thing?
If your government told you the reason for killing all people attending the service at your church (this is an example it could be a sporting event or anything else where a lot of people gather) was because bin laden's successor was suspected to be in there and they needed to "make sure" he is killed because he wanted to bomb your hometown, would you happily accept that?
(Site Administrator)
Your analogy is wrong. The Jews aren't bombing themselves, are they. Also, to n0val's point below, it's obvious some care is being taken. I mean, you'd think death rates would be even higher the way you put it. Anyway, jihad while hiding behind women and children appears not to be working. Maybe that's the point Israel is trying to make.
(Old Spike)
So imagine the location of gathering being in Denmark and your government are the culprits. Does this help for you to form an opinion? Are "danish lives" worth less than those of people from wherever you live?
israel shot their own hostages on at least 2 occasions, on one of them they wer waving white flags......
So to answer my question for you: You do not think that any ethnic cleansing is taking place and are happy with israels actions.
(Site Administrator)
Again, your analogy is wrong. Here, maybe a picture to help you. To most of us it looks like this..
(Old Spike)
What a nice melancholic little picture full of wishful thinking, now imagine the woman in the black attire is your mother and the kid in the rucksack your sister. Thoughts?
(Old Spike)
you would think for like a guy that goes out of his way to distinguish himself as a greek orthadox every time a christian diddles a kid, he'd be a bit more open to the concept that while most hamas might be palestinian, not every palestinian is hamas
(Site Administrator)
Sal, thanks for adding your voice to dc's. Of course he needs all the help he can get trying to tie the belief that all Christians are apparently pro the irradication of the palestinians. Anything you can do to help him please. Your speaking up is really important and makes me rethink my position. No, not really. And yes, while it's a source of pride that orthodox priests are allowed to marry and that sex scandals are with adult women, this is besides the point.
Also - I couldn't rapidly find the kid with the rpg in your photo below, it's like advanced where's Wallid, hunh? Can you repost the image with a circle around the terrorist?.. or did you just prove the IDF's point about them being indistinguishable from the general population.
(Old Spike)
He is a bit of a joke, isn't he. All his comments about this are driven by his superiority complex. Not only feeling superior to other religions and atheists but also to other "christian" sects. Like he tries to portray ia charicature of a religious nutter stereotype with his "SN identity".
(Site Administrator)
Well you sure got me figured out. Reading the above I'm like, insecurities much? You still got your panties in a bunch cause you lost the wrestling match during your non-denominitive Festivus Holiday or whatever?
(Site Administrator)
Well, you know the old adage daftcunt. If your country is invaded by a hostile force (Hamas) it's your duty as a man (regular Palestinian) to take up arms and fight the oppressor to the death. To die, for your country, with honor. So to answer your question I'd probably try to kill the terrorist fuckers that visited this curse on my country. What do you think, Fritz? Could you fight for your homeland as hard as pop-pop did during the invasion? I hope you never have to find out.
(Old Spike)
again, avoiding directly answering the question when does defense turn into ethnic cleansing.
One would think that, when the pope and now even the US call for a change in israeli strategy that for almost everyone except the most vile far right it is enough now. But it looks like isrtael has succeeded in their approach to try to equal palestinian with terrorist, at the same time dehumanise the palestinian population in the eyes of too many and make people forget that they constantly illegaly occupy more land that isn't theirs (just to mention the highlights). Of course the "brown people are less worthy especially when they are muslim" must also not be forgotten.
(Site Administrator)
'they constantly illegaly occupy more land that isn't theirs', HERE finally you have a point. This is indeed something that the US may want to stop vetoing and expunging from the UN records if progress is ever to be made on the issue. But how do you negotiate with Hamas now that they've shown they were stalling for an attack all this time.
(Old Spike)
Still dodging the question, lol,
FIRST you have to stop occupation, at least you show good will. Keep on poking the wounded animal with a stick and you will get the consequences. In this case it will be more support for the hamas. If you ask me this is what many far right israelis wanted for a long time anyway so they waited until something happens in order to react and then get their own Endlösung.
(Site Administrator)
It was clear from video footage, just how Zionist colonizers hold and handle their weapons that they had training from the IDF. Basically doing the government's dirty work. This also needs to be recognized by the international community as part of the root cause of the October events. But will it though.
Also, every time you say I dodge a question it just increases my self esteem.
(Old Spike)
So you know what is happening.
Hence I think I know your opinion, you don't care about how many palestinians are killed, they are arabs and mostly muslims so they are worth less to you than other people and thus dispensable.
(Site Administrator)
You can think that, but you'd be wrong. You're wrong most of the time. I say in mediation the encroachment of Jewish extremists be formally recognized as being a thing. I'll go one better, when they restore the borders I think the German army should take up peacekeeping duties. Now that would be awesome.
(Old Spike)
Sorry, I don't believe you. Your superiority complex is as blatantly obvious as your absence of any empathy whatsoever for the palestinian victims, so is your insecurity when dodging straight answers and hiding behind badly executed sarcasm and silly insults btw.
At least in the character you portray on here in this anonymous forum. Maybe IRL it is different but I highly doubt it. I have more respect for those that at least state their opinion (even if it is "fuck it, kill them") than for you. And yes, that includes despicable characters such as cockintheeye below.
(Site Administrator)
Your words wound, daftcunt. You know it's always been about you believing me.. between your bursts of ADD.
You seem to be going out of your way to drive a wedge between our online opinions vs our 'real' ones. Yes, while at times I will raise a point or opinion different to the one I hold, I'll usually try to specify that this is done in the context of discussion, ie. that there IS another position out there that needs to be considered. My suggestions that the land grabs by Jewish extremists be recognized at last are in earnest. But so are the ones that moderate Muslims take up responsibility (and arms if need be) to distance themselves from extremist groups such as Hamas. And that this is also an opportunity for Germany to put a peacekeeping force together.. well that's just a spontaneous stroke of brilliance thanks to dealing with you on this site... finally, some value added.
In short, as the great Rick Sanchez says: 'Your disapproval means nothing to me. I've seen the stuff you like.'
PS. Leave the neon cat alone. Some of us thought he was dead.
(Old Spike)
"Your disapproval means nothing to me"
Of course buddy, that is why you had to reply.
Let it be now, you are just another racist fuck.
(Site Administrator)
Thanks Fritz. Coming from you it really means a lot. Thought we were discussing possible solutions for the conflict. Instead here I am casting pearls before schweinhund. My fault for entertaining your dementia.
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And still leave the neon cat alone. Putz.
(Old Spike)
You tried to divert so you can dodge the question, as always when the conversation becomes uncomfortable for you.
(Site Administrator)
You keep ignoring what the other person says and then go on to make up statements on their behalf AND come to conclusions based on those made-up statements is what I find laughable. I can see your pov of course. You're probably advocating for 'the good old days'.
Daftcunt's good old days:
Check it out, even uncle Himmler found common goals..
Oooh, you're a racist! You're a racist is what I'm saying based on all the stuff I just made up about you, in my head.
Strongly suggest you suck on a lemon til whatever this is passes... Try and feel better in the head is what I'm saying.
(Old Spike)
Still dodging....
Still diverting and pathetically trying to insult the person you converse with.
This is very entertaining.
(Site Administrator)
Agree you're doing this on all 4 counts. Good, admitting you have a problem is the first step to improving.
(Old Spike)
When did I try to insult you?
If you feel I owe you a reply to something you asked tell me what it is an I gladly respond ONCE you answer the question I asked first.
This is how a conversation works.
(Site Administrator)
'When did I try to insult you? If you feel...'
I dunno. Maybe do a search for wherever I call you 'Putz' and there's usually an insult in your comment before. (You can assume we're not doing pet names).
'This is how a conversation works.'
Daftcunt giving notes on how to properly converse, everyone.
(Long Spike)
(Long Spike)
This does not fit in with Islam being the religion of love and peace. So ignore it and it will go away.
(Old Spike)
You're a grown-up when you take up arms, when you die with said arms you are counted as a child!
There is no right or wrong here, just how low will you go! I can give a good argument for either side.
One thing is for sure, the amount of bombs and casualties doesn't add up..... there should not be a single Palestinian alive and yet after the biggest bombardment since ww2 ...... maybe Israel is far more careful than anything anywhere in history!
Why aren't there millions of dead? It's fish in a barrel......
(Site Administrator)
That's an interesting and often overlooked point.
(Old Spike)
i put a kid with an rpg in the photo
if you find him, do you engage?
(Old Spike)
The "israel approach" would be to throw a large enough bomb at it so all people on the picture are eliminated, even if their own hostages would be part of the group, btw!
(Short Spike)
My rpg of choice is bg3
(sounds retarded)
I'm fine with that. Level it then annex it.