Outrage porn is hilarious & always so removed from reality it's almost outrageous that grown human beans take this shit seriously.
The NBA & Blizzard situation is simply capitalism in action, no government was involved. Blizzard & the NBA are pandering to the Chinese market. This market will soon be the largest by nominal GDP & 99% of it is against the HK terries, regardless of what they about a lack of liberalism in their country or the govts of HK & China.
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
No Chinese government involvement in censorship whatsoever.
I like the apology from the South Park creators.
“Like the N.B.A., we welcome the Chinese censors into our homes and into our hearts,” the show’s creators said in a tongue-in-cheek response. “We too love money more than freedom and democracy.”
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
yawn. Let me know what you have something real to say, monkey.
your sarcastic straw man statements are just a waste of pixels.
they're actully an act of cowardice, truth be told. Try refuting things with reason/logic some time, or at least make an attempt.
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
LOLOLOL Logic to face your concrete factual arguments? Impossible. I'll stick to cowardly basic mockery.
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sato (Old Spike)
straw man? where?
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
I said there was no government involvement in the blizzard oe nba situation and he twisted it around as no Chinese govt involvement incensorship - that's the straw man.
If he'd been smart (and honest) he would have argued that cgtn cutting ties with the Houston rockets is govt involvement because they're a state broadcaster. I left the door open for him to claim cgtn and even tencent have enough ccp influence to allege they were under orders (doubtful but w/e) but it's the same dumb shit with monkey 24/7. There's really no fun in arguing with such a doofus.
Actually the clickbait thumbnail of the video is typically deceptive. The only censorship here is the southpark episode being nixed. If you watch it u can see why. The way it portrays Chinese prisons and military personel is pretty ott. I thought the prison stuff was unnecessary for the message they were trying to put across. They could made more of an impact with the anti-censorship thing if they'd not been so crude imo.
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
Debating you is folly and I will never do it. You are either a special needs-level wu mao operative on a 25 Cent Army pay scale, totally blind, or just monumentally stupid. I don't claim to know which or to what degree of all but you are one fucked-up character. I know it's just me who thinks that way, so your solid opinions are nothing but facts. Don't worry about arguing with me, just believe you are always right and your opinion will be impossible to be found to be untrue.
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sato (Old Spike)
dude that's not a straw man. even if it wasn't true that all censorship in china is government censorship, that still isn't a straw man case. there's probably a name for that particular leap in logic but it isn't a straw man.
back to your point though, it sounds like you are saying the chinese government had no direct involvement and that it was blizzard's decision to censor themselves, is that correct?
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
Yeah I was implying that. And I've spent all of 2 mins looking into this issue, plus the 5 mins of time I wasted watching the start of this outrage porn shite.
As I said I left the door open. We could be getting to the bottom of what actually happened (and as usual I'll take china's side for the interest of discussion etc) but it seems monkey was so traumatised by being owned on the russiagate issue he's been scared for life to step back into the ring with me. He's hung up his man card, only willing to play the 12 Yr old troll card every time. It's pretty sad but what can you really expect from someone who wets the bed dreaming about trump and putin having cordial relations.
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
You are still pushing the "Russiagate" story-which Trump was totally clean on....-in relation to your wu mao pro-China babble? Get a grip Dinmin.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
You are the RussiaGate hoaxer, matey potatey. Tell us again how Trump is a Putin puppet.
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
LOLOL Yeah, Trump is clean as a whistle. It doesn't look like money is his God at all and there's no way Putin has every influenced him or he has been his dog.
Do yourself a favor and wake up.
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lawngnome (Long Spike)
This is way more than a trade war, their money moves, censorship and hostility have been aparent.
Jealous, theiving, sneaky, insecure little mofos aren't they?
Honestly, you can't play games w/o their hacking. (Gamers sprung on WW3 early, along w/ investors - stock, companies, realty)
Can't get on reddit and voice anything because the lefty anti-americans have been on the march, along with russian/china/iran troll farms.
Of all the types of people that lived under my roof, Russian and Chinese were ALWAYS the foreign exhange students that had no chill in my experience. Badddd body odor too. Damn Commies.
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sato (Old Spike)
to be fair it's not the people per se, but the nationalism they've been brought up under maing them that way.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
Ironic you speak about nationalist brainwashing of foreigners on a post with this popular 'YouTube commentator' harping on about American values and encouraging hostility towards a major civilisation of the world...the kind of garbage you actually agree with because.....?
(insert reasoning that has makes no mention of your own nationalist brainwashing)
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
Does Alex Jones look for a successor?
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Maxpower (Old Spike)
China act like such sensitive little babies, they should change their name to Gina.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
Lol
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
It's funny how triggered the China Bad people get when Chinese people do things they don't agree with.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
The specific views expressed by blitzchung were not a factor in the decision we made. I want to be clear: our relationships in China had no influence on our decision.
We have these rules to keep the focus on the game and on the tournament to the benefit of a global audience, and that was the only consideration in the actions we took. If this had been the opposing viewpoint delivered in the same divisive and deliberate way, we would have felt and acted the same. "
- President of Blizzard
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Maxpower (Old Spike)
The statement they put out to the Chinese audience said plainly that they "will always respect and the defend the pride of their country". They're speaking out of both sides of their mouth here.
Then there's also this linguist who suspects that the statement you're quoting was actually written in Chinese first then translated to English. It's not a smoking gun, but it is interesting.
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(Old Spike)
Outrage porn is hilarious & always so removed from reality it's almost outrageous that grown human beans take this shit seriously.
The NBA & Blizzard situation is simply capitalism in action, no government was involved. Blizzard & the NBA are pandering to the Chinese market. This market will soon be the largest by nominal GDP & 99% of it is against the HK terries, regardless of what they about a lack of liberalism in their country or the govts of HK & China.
(Long Spike)
No Chinese government involvement in censorship whatsoever.
I like the apology from the South Park creators.
“Like the N.B.A., we welcome the Chinese censors into our homes and into our hearts,” the show’s creators said in a tongue-in-cheek response. “We too love money more than freedom and democracy.”
(Old Spike)
yawn. Let me know what you have something real to say, monkey.
your sarcastic straw man statements are just a waste of pixels.
they're actully an act of cowardice, truth be told. Try refuting things with reason/logic some time, or at least make an attempt.
(Long Spike)
LOLOLOL Logic to face your concrete factual arguments? Impossible. I'll stick to cowardly basic mockery.
(Old Spike)
straw man? where?
(Old Spike)
I said there was no government involvement in the blizzard oe nba situation and he twisted it around as no Chinese govt involvement in censorship - that's the straw man.
If he'd been smart (and honest) he would have argued that cgtn cutting ties with the Houston rockets is govt involvement because they're a state broadcaster. I left the door open for him to claim cgtn and even tencent have enough ccp influence to allege they were under orders (doubtful but w/e) but it's the same dumb shit with monkey 24/7. There's really no fun in arguing with such a doofus.
Actually the clickbait thumbnail of the video is typically deceptive. The only censorship here is the southpark episode being nixed. If you watch it u can see why. The way it portrays Chinese prisons and military personel is pretty ott. I thought the prison stuff was unnecessary for the message they were trying to put across. They could made more of an impact with the anti-censorship thing if they'd not been so crude imo.
(Long Spike)
Debating you is folly and I will never do it. You are either a special needs-level wu mao operative on a 25 Cent Army pay scale, totally blind, or just monumentally stupid. I don't claim to know which or to what degree of all but you are one fucked-up character. I know it's just me who thinks that way, so your solid opinions are nothing but facts. Don't worry about arguing with me, just believe you are always right and your opinion will be impossible to be found to be untrue.
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(Old Spike)
dude that's not a straw man. even if it wasn't true that all censorship in china is government censorship, that still isn't a straw man case. there's probably a name for that particular leap in logic but it isn't a straw man.
back to your point though, it sounds like you are saying the chinese government had no direct involvement and that it was blizzard's decision to censor themselves, is that correct?
(Old Spike)
Yeah I was implying that. And I've spent all of 2 mins looking into this issue, plus the 5 mins of time I wasted watching the start of this outrage porn shite.
As I said I left the door open. We could be getting to the bottom of what actually happened (and as usual I'll take china's side for the interest of discussion etc) but it seems monkey was so traumatised by being owned on the russiagate issue he's been scared for life to step back into the ring with me. He's hung up his man card, only willing to play the 12 Yr old troll card every time. It's pretty sad but what can you really expect from someone who wets the bed dreaming about trump and putin having cordial relations.
(Long Spike)
You are still pushing the "Russiagate" story-which Trump was totally clean on....-in relation to your wu mao pro-China babble? Get a grip Dinmin.
(Old Spike)
You are the RussiaGate hoaxer, matey potatey. Tell us again how Trump is a Putin puppet.
(Long Spike)
LOLOL Yeah, Trump is clean as a whistle. It doesn't look like money is his God at all and there's no way Putin has every influenced him or he has been his dog.
Do yourself a favor and wake up.
(Long Spike)
This is way more than a trade war, their money moves, censorship and hostility have been aparent.
Jealous, theiving, sneaky, insecure little mofos aren't they?
Honestly, you can't play games w/o their hacking. (Gamers sprung on WW3 early, along w/ investors - stock, companies, realty)
Can't get on reddit and voice anything because the lefty anti-americans have been on the march, along with russian/china/iran troll farms.
Of all the types of people that lived under my roof, Russian and Chinese were ALWAYS the foreign exhange students that had no chill in my experience. Badddd body odor too. Damn Commies.
(Old Spike)
to be fair it's not the people per se, but the nationalism they've been brought up under maing them that way.
(Old Spike)
Ironic you speak about nationalist brainwashing of foreigners on a post with this popular 'YouTube commentator' harping on about American values and encouraging hostility towards a major civilisation of the world...the kind of garbage you actually agree with because.....?
(insert reasoning that has makes no mention of your own nationalist brainwashing)
(Old Spike)
Does Alex Jones look for a successor?
(Old Spike)
China act like such sensitive little babies, they should change their name to Gina.
(Old Spike)
Lol
(Old Spike)
It's funny how triggered the China Bad people get when Chinese people do things they don't agree with.
(Old Spike)
(Old Spike)
The statement they put out to the Chinese audience said plainly that they "will always respect and the defend the pride of their country". They're speaking out of both sides of their mouth here.
Then there's also this linguist who suspects that the statement you're quoting was actually written in Chinese first then translated to English. It's not a smoking gun, but it is interesting.