Fake news. Nearly every country has neo-nazis or similar, even (weirdly) Japan.
Are the Ukrainians generally racist? Perhaps, but probably less so than your average Russian...
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skeptoid (Old Spike)
Everyone is a Nazi until you come across actual Nazis, and then there's slience from everyone.
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
Fucking hell, more russian propaganda.
In the meantime in the real world russian troops are bombing residential buildings, schools and hospitals, it appears they learned well from israel......
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jdt73 (Short Spike)
What ever you do make sure you pick a side, stick your fingers in your ears and sing la la la la la la.
Propoganda is what you eat for beakfast.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Magically obedience to the virus no longer matters. Those Ukrainian people and Russian soldiers should be masking up.
Armies and disease don't mix very well.
Let's also forget about the precendents set by the Canadian government on how to handle peaceful dissent during the freedom convoy.
Pay no Attention to the UK Defence department calling for cybernetic soldiers.
"Such decisions should not be handled by ethicists or public opinion." -Defense Department of U.K.
More on that below.
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danman (Site Administrator)
it's funny seeing who denies this.
The video doesn't do a very good job of exposing them but the evidence is overwhelming.
Westerners shouldn't form opinions on Ukraine until they've read up on these orgs & their integration within the post-2014 Ukraine govt: SNA, Right Sector/White Hammer, Svoboda, UNA-UNSO, C14, Bratstvo, Aidar battalion, Sich battalion, Azov & St Marys battalions & Ukrainian National Corps.
For bonus points look into who NATO has been arming & training there for what's taking place now. If you didn't notice how NATO was backing jihadis in Syria you might struggle figuring out Ukraine. The tactics Russia's gonna use in Ukraine are likely to make you wince, best look away.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Yep, NATO has been robbing their own citizens of domestic freedom and money, while starting wars in Nations trying to get away from the banking cartel in the name of freedom and money.
@Danman, If you have a few minutes check out the vid I just posted above.
The future of governence and warfare is looking pretty grim. You can see Nazi fingerprints all over this.
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danman (Site Administrator)
the cyborg gap LMAO. We're such freaks :D
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Nazi's worshipped unethical science. You could even see that influence on Imperialist Japan during the unit 731 Atrocities in Manchuria.
Now UK military is calling for full speed ahead on cybernetic augmentation and demanding that ethicists and the public stay out of the decision making.
What could possibly go wrong?
The cyborg gap is a reasonable comparison to nuclear proliferation, and I see consequences just as devastating ahead.
When there are no more proxy wars to fight, we are stuck with this crap for domestic "Terrorism"
Or better yet, who says we can't have both. Infinite proxy wars and domestic cyber police.
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Dude (Old Spike)
Just shaved my head :)
https://postimg.cc/640gpfqj
https://postimg.cc/6ySPM3km
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
Oh, and I forgot, the nuclear power plant. Just so you idiots know who the deranged are in this war.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Lol, You think there are good guys and bad guys. How cute.
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danman (Site Administrator)
what about "the nuclear power plant"
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
I haven't looked into it yet. Considering Russias generally careful strategy over the past week, them suddenly attempting to irradiate the nation doesn't make sense.
What would make sense is sabotage to further escalate the conflict.
These are just early thoughts without checking anything out yet.
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Dude (Old Spike)
''what about "the nuclear power plant" ''
- My answer - Well Russia is building a nuclear power plant, so the Ukrainians have enough electricity
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backdraft (Site Moderator)
Putin doesn't care about a few wanna be nazies roaming around.
NATO bulging into their land is what Putin is afraid of.
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danman (Site Administrator)
I think he cares (Russians are being oppressed & butchered in Ukraine these past 8 years & it's only getting worse - not just Putin but others in Russia have been watching in horror) but yeah NATO is the bigger issue in terms of threats to Russia's security. NATO partnering with neo-Nazis on Russia's border makes it fuzzy where the line is between the 2. This is a big gamble by Putin which is unlike him & I'd say if Finland or Sweden end up joining NATO as a result you could almost say he lost, depending on the kind of security cooperation arrangement btw Europe & Russia that comes out of this. Could take a couple years to see that.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
I wouldn't say they are just partnering with them, they have been completely infiltrated by them.
NATO has been using the fascist playbook for decades. Of course uner the influence, finance, and direction of Anglo bankers. Who themselves are under the direction of cults of which they serve.
Dividing the population against one another by supporting special interests groups above others.
Hijacking the education system under the guise of correcting history.
Hijacking the medical institutions deteriorating quality and choice with healthcare plans.
Merging corperate and state powers.
Merging banking and state powers and then weaponizing them.
Now leaping past ethics in medicine. Coerced vaccination was the boldest move, and now they are entertaining bypassing ethics for other medical procedures.
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backdraft (Site Moderator)
Nazies is just a reason to throw in there to invade. Read the transcript of Putins speech before the attack and it's quite clear that he can't accept that NATO continues to expand to the east. (It's really about the US getting closer with the use of NATO).
Well, he has to thank the former Soviet leader for the mistrust that most the eastern block has.
They joined NATO because they want to be sure they won't be part of Russia again.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Both sides are being played. The outcome will depend on if Putin can seperate from the world system and defend himself. It will also matter if the man appointed to succeed him can stay dedicated to this mission.
NATO was directed to make Russia feel threatened and bait Russia into a pre emptive strike or risk invasion. A lose-lose situation.
Putin took the bait and played the card offered, the real question is can he turn lemons into lemonade before actions are taken that cannot be reversed by either side.
I support siezing one's own destiny, but I hope he is aware of the situation he is in, I hope he is not willingly working for the agenda and leading the world to slaughter. And above all I hope for negotiation and de escalation.
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danman (Site Administrator)
Nazis are not the only reason cited for the military operation.
Listen to Putin's addresses explaining what's going on, it has more to do with NATO expansionism & the preservation of Russia's security & sovereignty but thet 14k people who've been killed in Donbass in the past 8 years, mainly at the hands of a Ukrainian military with nao-Nazis as a major force within it is no joke. They openly talk about ethnic cleansing Russians from Ukraine, not to mention actually trying to do it.
You might have to bypass your usual programming which is trying to hammer home the point of "Nazis are just an excuse" and even trying to convince you there is no neo-Nazi problem in Ukraine's security & political apparatus.
There are some details in this article but one article/video won't cut it, you have to look into it yourself. It was being reported quite widely in western press until quite recently, now there's a bunch of shit trying to deny it...
And where do you think this anti-russia sentiment came from? Surely Russia has always behaved and not meddled with Ukraine's politics. Well now it's 100x worse.
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danman (Site Administrator)
Russians are part of Ukraine & the underworld there is strong in both East & West. It's not a black n white issue between 2 countries like you may think, internally there's ethnic & even religious stuff at play which doesn't really recognize national borders. The ultra-nats / neo-nazis complain about Russian Jewish mafia & surprise surprise half of the oligarchs there fit this description. Zelensky's oligarch backer is Jewish but pro-West. Ukraine isn't even considered a flawed democracy, it's a corrupt shithole to be blunt. Underworld bosses have been looting the place since fall of Soviet Union & Biden clique is in bed with some of those cunts.
the conflict is gonna boost anti-Russian sentiment but it'll depend how bad it gets as to how much it's amplified & how long it lasts. In the pro-Russian community in Ukraine it's going to boost pro-Russian sentiment - mainly in the cities which have been under artificial anti-Russian control since 2014. In Kharkov & Mariupol people are trapped and used as human shields rn. Those cities were traditionally pro-Russia but have been taken over by Ukrainian fascists who shoot people who try to escape to Russian checkpoints.
A couple of major cities, just north of Crimea - Melitopol & Kherson, were taken without much struggle at all and now Russia is delivering humanitarian aid there. There are some protests against their presence of course but I think on those kind of cities there shouldn't be much change in sentiment towards Russia.
Zelensky has replaced a bunch of regional leaders though to put hardliner/fascists in power. Odessa is an example. This is so that the cities won't give up to Russia without a fight & do as I described above - holding the civilians hostage & making things much worse.
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(dumb cunt)
Fake news. Nearly every country has neo-nazis or similar, even (weirdly) Japan.
Are the Ukrainians generally racist? Perhaps, but probably less so than your average Russian...
(Old Spike)
Everyone is a Nazi until you come across actual Nazis, and then there's slience from everyone.
(Old Spike)
Fucking hell, more russian propaganda.
In the meantime in the real world russian troops are bombing residential buildings, schools and hospitals, it appears they learned well from israel......
(Short Spike)
What ever you do make sure you pick a side, stick your fingers in your ears and sing la la la la la la.
Propoganda is what you eat for beakfast.
(Old Spike)
Magically obedience to the virus no longer matters. Those Ukrainian people and Russian soldiers should be masking up.
Armies and disease don't mix very well.
Let's also forget about the precendents set by the Canadian government on how to handle peaceful dissent during the freedom convoy.
Pay no Attention to the UK Defence department calling for cybernetic soldiers.
"Such decisions should not be handled by ethicists or public opinion." -Defense Department of U.K.
More on that below.
(Site Administrator)
it's funny seeing who denies this.
The video doesn't do a very good job of exposing them but the evidence is overwhelming.
Westerners shouldn't form opinions on Ukraine until they've read up on these orgs & their integration within the post-2014 Ukraine govt: SNA, Right Sector/White Hammer, Svoboda, UNA-UNSO, C14, Bratstvo, Aidar battalion, Sich battalion, Azov & St Marys battalions & Ukrainian National Corps.
For bonus points look into who NATO has been arming & training there for what's taking place now. If you didn't notice how NATO was backing jihadis in Syria you might struggle figuring out Ukraine. The tactics Russia's gonna use in Ukraine are likely to make you wince, best look away.
(Old Spike)
Yep, NATO has been robbing their own citizens of domestic freedom and money, while starting wars in Nations trying to get away from the banking cartel in the name of freedom and money.
@Danman, If you have a few minutes check out the vid I just posted above.
The future of governence and warfare is looking pretty grim. You can see Nazi fingerprints all over this.
(Site Administrator)
the cyborg gap LMAO. We're such freaks :D
(Old Spike)
Nazi's worshipped unethical science. You could even see that influence on Imperialist Japan during the unit 731 Atrocities in Manchuria.
Now UK military is calling for full speed ahead on cybernetic augmentation and demanding that ethicists and the public stay out of the decision making.
What could possibly go wrong?
The cyborg gap is a reasonable comparison to nuclear proliferation, and I see consequences just as devastating ahead.
When there are no more proxy wars to fight, we are stuck with this crap for domestic "Terrorism"
Or better yet, who says we can't have both. Infinite proxy wars and domestic cyber police.
(Old Spike)
Just shaved my head :)
https://postimg.cc/640gpfqj
https://postimg.cc/6ySPM3km
(Old Spike)
Oh, and I forgot, the nuclear power plant. Just so you idiots know who the deranged are in this war.
(Old Spike)
Lol, You think there are good guys and bad guys. How cute.
(Site Administrator)
what about "the nuclear power plant"
(Old Spike)
I haven't looked into it yet. Considering Russias generally careful strategy over the past week, them suddenly attempting to irradiate the nation doesn't make sense.
What would make sense is sabotage to further escalate the conflict.
These are just early thoughts without checking anything out yet.
(Old Spike)
''what about "the nuclear power plant" ''
- My answer - Well Russia is building a nuclear power plant, so the Ukrainians have enough electricity
(Site Moderator)
Putin doesn't care about a few wanna be nazies roaming around.
NATO bulging into their land is what Putin is afraid of.
(Site Administrator)
I think he cares (Russians are being oppressed & butchered in Ukraine these past 8 years & it's only getting worse - not just Putin but others in Russia have been watching in horror) but yeah NATO is the bigger issue in terms of threats to Russia's security. NATO partnering with neo-Nazis on Russia's border makes it fuzzy where the line is between the 2. This is a big gamble by Putin which is unlike him & I'd say if Finland or Sweden end up joining NATO as a result you could almost say he lost, depending on the kind of security cooperation arrangement btw Europe & Russia that comes out of this. Could take a couple years to see that.
(Old Spike)
I wouldn't say they are just partnering with them, they have been completely infiltrated by them.
NATO has been using the fascist playbook for decades. Of course uner the influence, finance, and direction of Anglo bankers. Who themselves are under the direction of cults of which they serve.
Dividing the population against one another by supporting special interests groups above others.
Hijacking the education system under the guise of correcting history.
Hijacking the medical institutions deteriorating quality and choice with healthcare plans.
Merging corperate and state powers.
Merging banking and state powers and then weaponizing them.
Now leaping past ethics in medicine. Coerced vaccination was the boldest move, and now they are entertaining bypassing ethics for other medical procedures.
(Site Moderator)
Nazies is just a reason to throw in there to invade. Read the transcript of Putins speech before the attack and it's quite clear that he can't accept that NATO continues to expand to the east. (It's really about the US getting closer with the use of NATO).
Well, he has to thank the former Soviet leader for the mistrust that most the eastern block has.
They joined NATO because they want to be sure they won't be part of Russia again.
(Old Spike)
Both sides are being played. The outcome will depend on if Putin can seperate from the world system and defend himself. It will also matter if the man appointed to succeed him can stay dedicated to this mission.
NATO was directed to make Russia feel threatened and bait Russia into a pre emptive strike or risk invasion. A lose-lose situation.
Putin took the bait and played the card offered, the real question is can he turn lemons into lemonade before actions are taken that cannot be reversed by either side.
I support siezing one's own destiny, but I hope he is aware of the situation he is in, I hope he is not willingly working for the agenda and leading the world to slaughter. And above all I hope for negotiation and de escalation.
(Site Administrator)
Nazis are not the only reason cited for the military operation.
Listen to Putin's addresses explaining what's going on, it has more to do with NATO expansionism & the preservation of Russia's security & sovereignty but thet 14k people who've been killed in Donbass in the past 8 years, mainly at the hands of a Ukrainian military with nao-Nazis as a major force within it is no joke. They openly talk about ethnic cleansing Russians from Ukraine, not to mention actually trying to do it.
You might have to bypass your usual programming which is trying to hammer home the point of "Nazis are just an excuse" and even trying to convince you there is no neo-Nazi problem in Ukraine's security & political apparatus.
There are some details in this article but one article/video won't cut it, you have to look into it yourself. It was being reported quite widely in western press until quite recently, now there's a bunch of shit trying to deny it...
https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/04/nazis-ukrainian-war-russia/
(Site Moderator)
And where do you think this anti-russia sentiment came from? Surely Russia has always behaved and not meddled with Ukraine's politics. Well now it's 100x worse.
(Site Administrator)
Russians are part of Ukraine & the underworld there is strong in both East & West. It's not a black n white issue between 2 countries like you may think, internally there's ethnic & even religious stuff at play which doesn't really recognize national borders. The ultra-nats / neo-nazis complain about Russian Jewish mafia & surprise surprise half of the oligarchs there fit this description. Zelensky's oligarch backer is Jewish but pro-West. Ukraine isn't even considered a flawed democracy, it's a corrupt shithole to be blunt. Underworld bosses have been looting the place since fall of Soviet Union & Biden clique is in bed with some of those cunts.
the conflict is gonna boost anti-Russian sentiment but it'll depend how bad it gets as to how much it's amplified & how long it lasts. In the pro-Russian community in Ukraine it's going to boost pro-Russian sentiment - mainly in the cities which have been under artificial anti-Russian control since 2014. In Kharkov & Mariupol people are trapped and used as human shields rn. Those cities were traditionally pro-Russia but have been taken over by Ukrainian fascists who shoot people who try to escape to Russian checkpoints.
A couple of major cities, just north of Crimea - Melitopol & Kherson, were taken without much struggle at all and now Russia is delivering humanitarian aid there. There are some protests against their presence of course but I think on those kind of cities there shouldn't be much change in sentiment towards Russia.
Zelensky has replaced a bunch of regional leaders though to put hardliner/fascists in power. Odessa is an example. This is so that the cities won't give up to Russia without a fight & do as I described above - holding the civilians hostage & making things much worse.