Canada Back in the War Crimes Business

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Canada lifts suspension of arms exports to Saudi Arabia

In fact they never got out of it.

 

The Canadian government is lifting a suspension on arms exports to Saudi Arabia and has renegotiated a controversial multibillion-dollar contract that will see an Ontario-based company sell light armoured vehicles (LAVs) to Riyadh.

 

The 14 billion Canadian dollar ($10bn) deal to export LAVs made by the Ontario-based General Dynamics Land Systems to Saudi Arabia was brokered in 2014 by the previous Conservative government. The deal was suspended when Kashogi was butchered in Turkey & it was a bad look to be supporting the Saudi regime then... Canada continued supplying the head choppers though, with contracts previously signed & now is going ahead with this huge one, despite the obvious war crimes going on in that conflict, mainly at the hands of the side Canada is supplying, including genocide tactics.

 

According to ACLED, over 100,000 people have been killed in Yemen, including more than 12,000 civilians, as well as estimates of more than 85,000 dead as a result of an ongoing famine due to the war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemeni_Civil_War_(2015%E2%80%93present)

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/03/world/middleeast/war-crimes-yemen.html

 

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monkeymania's picture

The two words "war" and "crimes" used together has always struck me as bizarre.

 

War is in itself a snowballing tangle of obscene crimes which unfortunately is an ancient pastime of the human race -TWS

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The name is rooted in international law which became a thing last century. Members of the UN sign a treaty & have obligations under it, this is what forms the basis of international law relating to warfare. Certain breaches of the law during warfare can be considered war crimes - genocide is an obvious example. Unprovoked attacks on foreign soil are technically war crimes (crimes of aggression = class A war crime). Unfortunately prosecuting perpetrators isn't easy & often politicised. The US for example isn't even a member of the International Criminal Court and even has a policy to go to war in the Netherlands if any US war criminal ever ends up in the Hague.

 

If a country is attacked it can fight back without breaking international law but there are conditions to how they can fight back.

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War is a game in it's purest essence. The most dangerous game we have ever devised.

 

If you do war shit outside the war "rules," Or if you force non participants to participate It's considered a crime.

 

Logically war doesn't always make alot of sense. Not in the same way it made sense when we were less developed and in smaller groups.

 

Emotionally. Thanks to evolution. It makes perfect sense.

 

In my personal opinion what constitutes a war crime should have a more in depth look.

 

For example. Let's say Canada is invaded. If a civillian male is shot no matter his age. It can be considered a crime. However under the circumstance of invasion, if that male is able bodied and he isn't fighting I would consider him being a civillian a war crime. Men are expected to defend their tribe when attacked. It is inherent male responsibility that we are born with.

 

Also on the topic with the video. I was wondering how Canada was going to pay for this UBI everyone's getting. I thought they were just going to take from us for year and years. Oh wait, they'll probably do that too.

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Our economy is completely devistated. Almost everyone I know just became unemployed. The government is thinking they can foot the bill when we were already running a $100 billion deficit when times were "good". We need this money just to help kinda keep us afloat.

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Most of us have some tough times coming up. Canada has about $86b USD in foreign reserves & could get an IMF loan if they wanted.

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theblackswordsman's picture
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The float money is not what concerns me. Being in the new world means we will always have cash now.

 

Over here, right now. If you don't have the virus, and you don't mind not getting laid for awhile. Life is pretty good. I'm paid more now than I made working full time in non managment positions.

 

What I worry about is how much is this going to cost when we go back to work.

 

Our income tax for low income is already 19.9% for the good times.

 

 

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danmanjones's picture

Does supporting genocide in Yemen bother you?

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theblackswordsman's picture
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What's out of my control rarely bothers me.

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you just said you're worried about how much it's gonna cost when you go back to work... that's not in your control either

 

seems more like you're only bothered if it affects you directly

 

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Oh that's in my control, lol don't kid yourself.

 

And you're right. if it doesn't directly affect me, I don't care.

 

Also, worry and concern are two different emotions. I just used the word worry inappropriately as a placeholder term.

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Confused?

 

So am I. You put such a juicy buzz fueled title, with a video that wastes 40 seconds telling me nothing.

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there's a description to go with the video

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sal9000's picture
front pageTantrums and Tiaras

that you seem to have left out that the ontario based company is a subsidiary on an american defense corporation, the LAVS being produced are only used by america and saudi arabia. that the canadian government did not make the contract but only allowed it because at the time, there was no war in yemen. also that the suspension being lifted probably has something to do with the the ceasefire.

 

you also left out the part of how a chinese state owned company ergo china has been producing and selling Wing Loong UAVS to saudia arabia since 2014 and hasn't stopped. the same ones saudia arabia been using to attack yemen, the very ones used to kill the Houthi leader in 2018. the same ones saudi's currently using in the libyan civil war.

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So many details from the "mass imprisonment of an estimated two million Uyghurs" dumb cunt.

 

The Canadian government just approved a 14 billion USD arms sale to the Saudis who've been waging a genocidal war against Yemen for 5 years, starving around 100k Yemeni civilians to death & causing a cholera outbreak there.

 

These are the same Saudis who threatened Canada with a 9/11 style attack 18 months ago via Twitter.

 

Those are some facts.

 

 

"two million Uyghurs" is a lie. You're an intellectually dishonest dumb cunt.

 

 

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Wow, seems like you're the hateful one around here today.

 

Also I remember when that was posted originally, You defended this as not government sanctioned and just some ignorant kid.

 

But now it's government sponsored all of a sudden?

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That graphic was tweeted by the Saudi Foreign Ministry & I don't recall talking about it on here.

 

sal9000 is an intellectually dishonest dumb cunt, a spade is a spade.

 

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I remember, Myself, Skeptoid, and (I think) Full Auto were up in arms about it when it dropped. And I remember you and Ninjizz doing the usual You just hate muslims thing. Calling us conspiracy theorists and such.

 

It was all very par for the course.

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sal9000's picture
front pageTantrums and Tiaras

https://www.spikednation.com/videos/saudi-arabia-threatens-9-11-canada

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Well from that link it seems "I remember when that was posted originally, You defended this as not government sanctioned and just some ignorant kid." doesn't check out. Not even close.

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"mass imprisonment of an estimated two million Uyghurs" is copypasta from the videos description.

 

yea. canada approved a renegotiated contact and lifted the suspension after the ceasefire. china has never stopped selling UAVS to Saudis who've been waging a genocidal war against Yemen for 5 years, starving around 100k Yemeni civilians to death & causing a cholera outbreak there.

 

i dont think anyone took that threat seriously. after all. it was in response to a canadian ambassadors twitter account calling for the release of women activists. also anyone who's gone to the cn tower knows you ain't taking that bitch down with a plane. the fuselage would pancake against the side, wings would shear off. pieces might damage the train tracks, or the roofs of the aquarium and skydome. no biggie

 

"You don't get to pick & choose when details & verifiable facts matter dickhead."  where were you at when you wrote that. like, emotionally?

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danmanjones's picture

blah blah blah

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So, Only China is allowed to sell weapons to Saudi Arabia?

 

Or does Selling less weapons make them less guilty?

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The topic here is Canada's arms sales to Saudi Arabia.

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I redact my implication of Danman in that post. He was discussing something different entirely.

 

It was just Ninjizz being an apologist.

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