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Biden's War Cabinet
Hey? Hey you? You won! Hey? Hey you there - you won! You feel like a winner? Cuz you won....
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(Old Spike)
honestly i dont mind war because the next draft will take care of the socialists who are being bred (everyone knows any kid below age 19 these days is a marxist). We must get them into a war imo. this is great news
(Short Spike)
You retards have never read a word of Karl Marx in your inbred life. He championed the prolitariate and was an economist. Keep bleating your american't fear. Socialism is about equal distribution of wealth and social care. Guess who takes care of each other the most and considers themselves equal?
(sounds retarded)
Hmmm, sounds like you started your first semester of college I see. Wait till the real world smacks you upside the head with reality! LOL
(Short Spike)
I own my own house and am successfully self employed with no debt.
You're the number one trumptard on this tiny site, fervently whining that he lost.
Reality has been much kinder and rewarding to one of us.
(sounds retarded)
YUP!!! ANd all these fuckheads "progressives" who voted for him are gonna regret it when Biden starts the bombing again. Incoming bank bailouts! Obama 2.0! 8 years of protesting the establishment just to vote it back in office.
Liberals and Progressives be like:
Oh, but dont worry, the lamestream media said they can push Biden to be more "progressive". LOL
(Old Spike)
pretty sure you've been told already that trump has dropped more bombs than either bush or obama
2008 bank bailout as under bush. and you might not have liked it, but the alternative was worse. imagine loosing your job and being on the phone with the bank who have now canceled your credit cards and also want an immidiate full payment on the mortgage while you watch as a tow truck repo's your car. now imagine thats happening to everybody. the riots then would have been worse than the ones we have now, but they would have been about food.
(Old Spike)
What do you think Biden LOCKDOWNS are going to do?
(Old Spike)
we're both canadian right?
(Old Spike)
Ok?
(Old Spike)
so you have an idea what a lockdown somewhat looks like, now, ours is flawed. got to wear a mask unless you say you got asthma and few other issues. but you can see how it can work for while to bring down the number before people start getting stupid again.
now 15 states don't even have a mask mandate.
heres a cool graph. covid cases by state partisanship
https://dangoodspeed.com/covid/total-cases-since-june
anything is better than they have now, is a win for everyone cause immediate family members can come up and visit right now.
(sounds retarded)
OMG, DUDE, WE DONT HAVE UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME LIKE CANADA! In most states you wont even get unemployment, in others you get around $100 a week! Can you live on $100 a week? How about NOTHING! NY and Cali are generous with their unemployment IF you can prove you have a business, if not then you get regular unemployment, again, IF you can prove you had a job, a lot of people work off the books, like in bars and restaurants and are fucked! Even then most people still only get around $200 a week, $500 max. You cannot shutdown everything and NOT support people! Thats like saying people shouldnt complain about not having healthcare in the USA becuase we live in a country that provides free health care. WTF?
(Old Spike)
so are you bragging that you both pay people an unliveable wage and don't have health care? you know with health care, you'de be taxed about 900.00 a year of you make over 200k. 0.00 if you make less than 20k.
(Old Spike)
Actually Trump attempted to get healthcare passed, but that was stopped by congress. Mainly the democrates were jealous they weren't going to be the ones to do it. so they auto voted against it because reasons. And the Republicans couldn't agree on a good plan. So they wasted their opportunity when they had majority.
(Old Spike)
he repealed individual mandate which was a guarenty that you could buy health care. also which healthcare didnt get passed. i can really only think of the times they tried to recall obamacare without having a substitute plan. i also don't see republicans voting on it. like if googled it, i feel like i'll find them against it.
(Old Spike)
Possibly intended as a motivator to Get SOME kind of healthcare plan in as a replacement. If so, then again the senate are the ones being petty and hurting the country for not settling on a replacement.
So if a healthcare plan is put through that may not be a total Biden victory. As the process needed a certain amount of time to work out. And this funny virus happened to throw a damper in all kinds of plans. (That's cured now that Biden is announced as president.)
(Old Spike)
he's been talking health plan for years, almost 4, with many attemps to recall what they have and show nothing of what will be provided. leaving people in limbo
(Old Spike)
Senate Problems.
A president can only do so much to unite people when everyone has been trying to stop him 24/7 and surrounded by people who refuse to get to work.
(Long Spike)
this convo has pretty much already happened here. https://www.spikednation.com/videos/case-electile-dysfunction
"Actually Trump attempted to get healthcare passed, but that was stopped by congress. Mainly the democrates were jealous they weren't going to be the ones to do it"
both house and senate have been republican majorities.
(Old Spike)
Yes I also go on to state.
so they auto voted against it because reasons. And the Republicans couldn't agree on a good plan. So they wasted their opportunity when they had majority.
So even the seats held by democrates were not giving favorable votes. That's 40% right there. Lets say there are a couple of republicans that either have democrate friends, or just don't like trump. that's- 5% lets say there. Then all you need for something to not pass is another 5% or more to be indecisive about the plan.
(Old Spike)
In Canada we pay our criminals to stay out of jail. There are ups and downs.
(Old Spike)
Even if the average citizen is taken care of (For now)
Small- Medium businesses are fucked unless they don't rely on human interaction outside of SOME trades. Plumbing and Electric, mechanic mainly.
The help money is not infinite nor free. We will be paying tis down for 20 years.
Guess who does just fine during lockdown though. CORPERATIONS.
The government takes away your ability to work. Forcing government dependence. In exchange you follow more of their rules, and have less autonomy.
Those with more auntonomy. (Business owners.) Are being squeezed out. Generating more slaves.
Artists are not permitted an audience to share their gifts. More slaves.
Long Term. Shit trade.
(Old Spike)
Dude when I was so sick I had to live for over a year on welfare because our medical system can't negotiate a case like mine I was amongst those whose entire subsistence is guaranteed by tax dollars. Entirely. And let me tell you - those people have no intention whatsoever of changing into the type of person who could survive without such aid. When COVID hit, and because I'm still in touch with many of the "welfare friends" I made during this brief time in my life, it was like God had given each and every one of them a lottery win. The booze was a flowin', the drugs ever-present in every variety, and for them it was a great party. Ongoing.
I don't know what to do with this - I DO know I prefer it to a system of US prisons full to the brim overseen by private corporations. That seems obvious to me. Is there a better solution - almost certainly.
(sounds retarded)
America dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016. What a bloody end to Obama's reign https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy
The U.S. is running out of bombs to drop on ISIS https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/politics/air-force-20000-bombs-missiles-isis/index.html
"...total for Obama’s presidency to over 100,000 bombs and missiles striking seven countries, surpassing the 70,000 unleashed on five countries by George W. Bush." https://consortiumnews.com/2017/01/18/obamas-bombing-legacy/
The bill was passed under Bush but Obama implemented it. He ran on the fucking platform of NOT bailing out the bankers and Wall Street that got us into the mess we were in. As soon as he got elected he hired Wall Street and Bankers to hand out the cash to their friends. Like I said, he back stabbed us with a smile on his face while lying to us! Dude, I fucking set up an Occupy encampment in my city. I was there, I remember it.
(Old Spike)
7 months into trumps first year in office. he dropped 32,000 bombs.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-really-bombing-shit-out-isis-just-he-promised-664844
by the end of the year, it was up to 44,000
https://archive.siasat.com/news/us-drops-bomb-every-12-minutes-1394009/
second year was on track. and remember that the budget has gone up.
somalia and yemen have never been bombed as much either.
(Old Spike)
rly? how many bombs were dropped on syria in the 3rd and 4th years?
(Old Spike)
you want information they have hasn't realeased and sepcifically years that they started to pull out. *truthiness*.
i remember they bombed late in december last year. also pentagon said they don't count attacks done in defense of the syrian democratic front.
(Old Spike)
Good question, but there's a better question. If Clinton had been elected in 2016, what graph would we be looking at and what would it show? You wouldn't just be looking at a graph of Aghganistan - the place the US is strategically retreating from. You'd be looking at a graph detailing several ongoing conflicts initiated by the US and the top of that exponential curve would pass through the top of this comment section. Watch what happens to your selectively autistic graph over the next 4 years Sal.
(sounds retarded)
Yes, you are right.
I found it very difficult to find information on this which is very concerning. The military industrial machine seems to be getting some help from big tech to hide this information.
Speaking on that note, I see there are numerous articles and posts about what you referenced, the Afgan theatre. It is disingenuous, its cherry picked information.
(Old Spike)
this is a classic bit of disinformation. why do you think only afghanistan is put into the data and not the total of all america's theatres of war? "truthiness"
(Old Spike)
cause theres only so much information in graph form regarding trumps administrations bombing numbers. go ahead, look.
(Old Spike)
None of that matters. He was wrapping up conflicts already engaged. Successfully.
Reducing presence. And not starting NEW wars.
I can already imagine "YEAH! REDUCING PRESENCE BY USING DRONES OMFGGGG!!!!"
If you're going to keep fighting, and leaving right now is not on the table. Better drones than troops.
Attempting peace offering in the middle east between the states early in his presidency. The last 5 Presidents didn't even try.
Also successfully de escalating North Korea. No one accomplished that before might I add.
While The whole world cowered in fear, He stepped up. Told Kim to stop playing games or your tin horn shanty that you call a country will be annihilated.
Then he did the counter intuitive thing which is go over PERSONALLY at GREAT risk. and form a relationship with him. And the world complained that Trump called a Meeting wth Kim and showed up 24 hours late with no statement. LOL. Like the world cared about the feelings of a dictator all of a sudden.
Biden won't make those kind of decisions.
(sounds retarded)
Obama 2.0! Pallets of cash! Thats how Obama did it in Iran and North Korea and that is exactly what Biden is ALREADY talking about doing again with Iran!
(Old Spike)
if thats the case, none of your comment matters, obama inherited the iraq war, the afgan war, that should take him right out of the running right?
(Old Spike)
Actually he pulled the trigger on Syria and Lybia. Allowed NK to grow unchecked, and entertained the idea of Iran.
Pulled out of Iraq prematurely so it remained destabilized.
Which is why we need to be more thoughtful about what we set up in Syria, and when/how we leave.
(Old Spike)
i'm playing by your rules bud. he was wrapping up conflicts already engaged. its really a compitition of bush vs trump
(Old Spike)
And Trump Inherited wars, but managed to avoid starting new ones. Attempted to repair volatile relationships in the middle east. And even stopped WWIII. No one can appreciate that because conflict didn't happen.
(Old Spike)
how many times did they say obama was going to start ww3? since it didnt happen, does he get credit or blame?
(Old Spike)
Obama did not have one single country outright staring him in the face with a threat.
NK blatantly came right out and said we are working on ICBM's and we will use them whatever way we want with Trump in Office. A country that could hurt us tested us. And Trump Passed the test.
Obama was never tested.
And let's not wander too far from what ALSO matters. Obama started new wars, Trump did not.
(Old Spike)
he never did this, he did this, if this would have happened..... trump bombed more
(Old Spike)
Lol, You must be trolling by this point.
(Old Spike)
no, presidents should be responsible for the bombs they drop while in office, there are no contractual obligations to drop x amount of bombs on middle eastern countries.
(Old Spike)
Those bombs represent decisive actions being taken to bring the war closer to a close.
(Old Spike)
"cause theres only so much information in graph form regarding trumps administrations bombing numbers. go ahead, look."
You are leaning as hard as I've ever seen you lean before into your autism. lol It won't shield you from cognitive dissionance - you can just avoid it more than others. You don't look at data honestly in this regard because you don't want to receive information that will put you in a place where you need to choose between what's rational and satisfying the demands on you coming from some social group, which often includes the SO.
You make a point, and then you admit your point is invalid because it's based on an incomplete set of data. Over the next four years, it will be impossible for you to continue with your current approach. You will have to face it - the delta will compel you to do so.
(Old Spike)
no. i'm taking the information available and going with that. trump bombs every 12 minutes. 43k bombs a year. not much happening in 2020.... so you want to go with 3 years. maybe 2 and half. thats over 100k. now, what i said was there was no graphs. but there are articles. https://theintercept.com/2020/04/22/coronavirus-somalia-airstrikes/ 39 airstrikes in somalia this year. there was a total of 36 from 2009-2017 and thats just airstrikes, that doesnt say how many bombs or missles were let loose. but again, you can find info about airstikes and what not, but no official numbers. which like someone else mentioned since the budget icreases every year, is concerning.
(Old Spike)
Biden is further increasing the military budget, but you don't seem to be conerned about that. Trump reports that his position on withdrawal was aggressively opposed by beaurucrats and warhawks within the permanent state - do you really think that didn't happen, knowing as you should that the majority of them and their "analyst advocates" are paid to be what they are?
Forget Trump - Tulsi Gabbard's campaign was subjected to the "Russian asset" hoax - Hillary came out of her cave to say that Tulsi was being groomed by Putin. The same people who opposed Trump's desire to withdraw support the neolib/neocon dominance agenda exemplified by Clinton and Bush. You ge tthat right?
(Old Spike)
Boy I am enjoying this retardedness!
(sounds retarded)
This is what I see when I read your comments:
(Old Spike)
Yeah, I can imagine. You understand your kind of language:
(Old Spike)
You think Stok is religious like that? Hey, I've been meaning to ask a question - who is the audience for posts like that vid above and ones sal posts showing these weird people acting funny? Who is that for, and what is that audience intended to get out of such posts?
It's a peculiarity I've been meaning to ask about.
(Old Spike)
You don't understand that this "preacher" has nothing to do with religion/belief other than exploiting the deluded and vulnerable and promoting trump whilst on it?
Figures!
So to explain it to you:
Cockintheeye tried to insult me by comparing my comments (and intellect) to "what sheep say".
I trumped (parden the pun) this by comparing his "language" and sanity to that of other supporters of orange boy.
(sounds retarded)
I was wondering what the Gif you kept posting was in reference to. I mock religious nuts too, sooooo, yeah. My (gay) friends and I started an atheist group in my city to fight against religious nuts back during the Bush years when they were fighting for their right to marry their partners. We collected money for billboards and flyers. I used to be militant atheist but now I just let them be, I want everyone to mind their own damn business and not push their beliefs on anyone else.
(Old Spike)
The fact that Daft has been a member here for as long as he has and doesn't recongize this about you is a testament to his lack of awareness. I know for a fact that you don't give two shits about religion or any of the traditional doctrines of Christinaity that permeate your country (much more so than mine, btw).
With this bubble boy Daft Cunt It's like watching a retard eat crayons- boy did he every pick his handle right. Except.... the dude's like 68 years old. But he acts and thinks like a child. Holy fuck.