Why is this guy wearing a 'The media is the virus' t-shirt? Does 'the cause' not endorse free press in a democratic federation? It's almost like he'd be inconvenienced watching a constitutional lawyer get interviewed on CTV pointing out that the Canadian Federal government has no jurisdiction over vaccine mandates, that control lies strictly with the provinces.. Or the latest numbers presented on national media show that we're now at only 10% of Canadians being 'vaccine hesitant'. But 'the media is the virus'. You tell us just how it is..putz.
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Has a passing interest in Canadian politics - isn't at all just repeating talking points presented to him by the CBC. Isn't at all avoiding the fact that most of the people in the crowd have gotten at least one shot and are therefore included in the propaganda as "the vaccinated" but not included in the legal definition of "vaccinated" that oppresses them because they haven't gotten this or that gene therapy booster shot. Which is presiely LMAO the reason why they are out there. Like Dr. Peterson they tried to comply and then quickly realized what was going on.
This is what I've been trying to tell you about how falsely you come across. You don't come across at all like a Canadian, but like someone who isn't Canadian but is dropping what he thinks are "Canadian identifiers" in an attempt to appear authentic. Any thoughts on that?
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Idiot. You're moving the goalposts and saying that folks who have had one dose of the 'experimental gene therapy' have seen the light and won't be going in for a second. It's like you're not counting all the folks who nearly die, barely make it out of the hospital alive and the first thing they do when they're back on their feet (after thanking the doctors and nurses who saved them) is run off to be vaccinated. Plenty of anecdotes on YouTube, your source for credible and balanced news. You honestly believe every trucker in North America has converged on Ottawa, when over 90% of them are vaccinated too, and going about their business making bread to feed their family.
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"Idiot. You're moving the goalposts and saying that folks who have had one dose of the 'experimental gene therapy' have seen the light and won't be going in for a second."
What goal posts - this isn't game you fucking moron. This is people's lives you are trying to destroy, and for no reason that you can explain. The 90% vaccinated figure is horseshit, and you know it - what percentage are "up-to-date"? The reality we are seeing, EVERYWHERE, does not square with your ridiculous propaganda. Watch a stunning example of reality vs. your "everyone is dying" propaganda. "All the people" LMAO you mean the .05 to .089% that are hospitalized, which included people already in the hospital who just happen to test positive? Because of bad actors like you, every ordinary person has had to inform themselves because the sources we should be able to rely on are terribly compromised. Watch this guy deploy the same "people are dying so obey" card trick here and it's just not playing anymore.
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See opening statement in my previous reply. You should be ashamed of yourself. Whatever the hell your motivation is.
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You keep deploying the same "people are dying so obey a mandate that makes no sense." You just keep repeating that over and over. As Maher points out, states with vastly different pandemic responses, mandates vs. no mandate, show absolutely no effect on the pandemic whether you have a mandate or not, whether you wear cloth masks or not, whether you are FUCKING VACCINATED OR NOT.
I don't think you're a victim of mass formation psychosis - I think you're a perpetrator. You claim no one told anyone that vaccination stops infection and transmission - I showed you Rachel Maddow saying exactly that, and you didn't respond. I show you undeniable proof that vaccination, as it has been deployed, has made not a lick of difference in combatting this pandemic, and you respond with "See previous - you should be ashamed". All you seem to have is shallow attempts at shaming - no one's buying the "you should be ashamed for not obeying" line. That's over dude, and the only people still pushing that shit are the perpetrators and their victims.
Thanks for getting back to me. Indeed, we need us veteran Spikers to tow the line and step in /keep people honest when things get out of hand. We do self-select for folks that speak their minds, and the new generation is a bit... overly-sensitive when exposed to opinions outside their comfort zone. You alluded to your illness briefly in the video, glad you finally tagged it. Not to pry, but what was it in the end? I'm assuming treatment is helping given the new energy and new job, kudos again! (Feel free to get medical, I work in clinical research). Best. Bobbob
I've got about ten more of these - it went on for some time. You were very eager to establish a relationship with me, to gain my approval, and you persisted pretty relentlessly over many months. Each time you make a claim, and then I respond and point out the problems with your claims and manipulations, and you respond as you did above I'm going to post a new private message from Bobbob and then analyze its contents. Sound good?
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As I said in our other thread, I didn't watch your Rachel Maddow clip. I don't want it to mess up my Youtube algorithm. It's all I could do to stop getting recommended your stupid Jimmy Dore videos.. Ah! I see you posted another jaunt down memory lane! Thanks for saving these bud. It's the internet though, so nothing is ever really lost, I mean, who actually takes the time to delete emails these days, am I right? So, before you make it sound like we're long lost pen pals, (again,.. creepy), let's see.. Ah! there it is, the above was in response to your email which read:
What the heck dude? My name is also ******. It's great to get a message from you. I also miss Exploder - some have suggested he's passed away but I hope that's not true. Maybe he'll return some day. SpikedNation means a lot to me - it bugs me when certain members drive the wider audience away because I know attracting them means keeping Spiked alive. My YouTube channel grew organically. I never expected it would get to this point - I've outlasted all of the cynical JBP clip channels (they've all been nixed or shut down) and it's just me and a few others who were careful about taking fair use angles on copyrighted clips and sourcing free content for most of our videos, including commentary videos. That said it's been a wild ride - twice I've been threatened with lawsuits, and I stood up to two huge orgs and they backed down. A lot of other channels folded under the threats. I feel a bit guilty about not getting my next JBP vid out sooner but I finally *snip/the rest of it is about your personal life and we won't be going there/snip* Thanks for the email and I'll see you around on Spiked. Best regards, ****** .
Like we said above. Sometimes it's all about context. As I too remember a time where a few of us veteran spikednationals kept this site alive by posting the odd video here or there while others stepped-up and gave of their time to be first-time moderators,.. So along with context, we veterans could promote subtlety. nuance. moderation even. Consider bringing some of that back, will you. If only for old times sake.
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Why is this guy wearing a 'The media is the virus' t-shirt? Does 'the cause' not endorse free press in a democratic federation? It's almost like he'd be inconvenienced watching a constitutional lawyer get interviewed on CTV pointing out that the Canadian Federal government has no jurisdiction over vaccine mandates, that control lies strictly with the provinces.. Or the latest numbers presented on national media show that we're now at only 10% of Canadians being 'vaccine hesitant'. But 'the media is the virus'. You tell us just how it is..putz.
(Old Spike)
Has a passing interest in Canadian politics - isn't at all just repeating talking points presented to him by the CBC. Isn't at all avoiding the fact that most of the people in the crowd have gotten at least one shot and are therefore included in the propaganda as "the vaccinated" but not included in the legal definition of "vaccinated" that oppresses them because they haven't gotten this or that gene therapy booster shot. Which is presiely LMAO the reason why they are out there. Like Dr. Peterson they tried to comply and then quickly realized what was going on.
This is what I've been trying to tell you about how falsely you come across. You don't come across at all like a Canadian, but like someone who isn't Canadian but is dropping what he thinks are "Canadian identifiers" in an attempt to appear authentic. Any thoughts on that?
(Site Administrator)
Idiot. You're moving the goalposts and saying that folks who have had one dose of the 'experimental gene therapy' have seen the light and won't be going in for a second. It's like you're not counting all the folks who nearly die, barely make it out of the hospital alive and the first thing they do when they're back on their feet (after thanking the doctors and nurses who saved them) is run off to be vaccinated. Plenty of anecdotes on YouTube, your source for credible and balanced news. You honestly believe every trucker in North America has converged on Ottawa, when over 90% of them are vaccinated too, and going about their business making bread to feed their family.
(Old Spike)
"Idiot. You're moving the goalposts and saying that folks who have had one dose of the 'experimental gene therapy' have seen the light and won't be going in for a second."
What goal posts - this isn't game you fucking moron. This is people's lives you are trying to destroy, and for no reason that you can explain. The 90% vaccinated figure is horseshit, and you know it - what percentage are "up-to-date"? The reality we are seeing, EVERYWHERE, does not square with your ridiculous propaganda. Watch a stunning example of reality vs. your "everyone is dying" propaganda. "All the people" LMAO you mean the .05 to .089% that are hospitalized, which included people already in the hospital who just happen to test positive? Because of bad actors like you, every ordinary person has had to inform themselves because the sources we should be able to rely on are terribly compromised. Watch this guy deploy the same "people are dying so obey" card trick here and it's just not playing anymore.
(Site Administrator)
See opening statement in my previous reply. You should be ashamed of yourself. Whatever the hell your motivation is.
(Old Spike)
You keep deploying the same "people are dying so obey a mandate that makes no sense." You just keep repeating that over and over. As Maher points out, states with vastly different pandemic responses, mandates vs. no mandate, show absolutely no effect on the pandemic whether you have a mandate or not, whether you wear cloth masks or not, whether you are FUCKING VACCINATED OR NOT.
I don't think you're a victim of mass formation psychosis - I think you're a perpetrator. You claim no one told anyone that vaccination stops infection and transmission - I showed you Rachel Maddow saying exactly that, and you didn't respond. I show you undeniable proof that vaccination, as it has been deployed, has made not a lick of difference in combatting this pandemic, and you respond with "See previous - you should be ashamed". All you seem to have is shallow attempts at shaming - no one's buying the "you should be ashamed for not obeying" line. That's over dude, and the only people still pushing that shit are the perpetrators and their victims.
Thanks for getting back to me. Indeed, we need us veteran Spikers to tow the line and step in /keep people honest when things get out of hand. We do self-select for folks that speak their minds, and the new generation is a bit... overly-sensitive when exposed to opinions outside their comfort zone. You alluded to your illness briefly in the video, glad you finally tagged it. Not to pry, but what was it in the end? I'm assuming treatment is helping given the new energy and new job, kudos again! (Feel free to get medical, I work in clinical research). Best. Bobbob
I've got about ten more of these - it went on for some time. You were very eager to establish a relationship with me, to gain my approval, and you persisted pretty relentlessly over many months. Each time you make a claim, and then I respond and point out the problems with your claims and manipulations, and you respond as you did above I'm going to post a new private message from Bobbob and then analyze its contents. Sound good?
(Site Administrator)
As I said in our other thread, I didn't watch your Rachel Maddow clip. I don't want it to mess up my Youtube algorithm. It's all I could do to stop getting recommended your stupid Jimmy Dore videos.. Ah! I see you posted another jaunt down memory lane! Thanks for saving these bud. It's the internet though, so nothing is ever really lost, I mean, who actually takes the time to delete emails these days, am I right? So, before you make it sound like we're long lost pen pals, (again,.. creepy), let's see.. Ah! there it is, the above was in response to your email which read:
What the heck dude? My name is also ******. It's great to get a message from you. I also miss Exploder - some have suggested he's passed away but I hope that's not true. Maybe he'll return some day. SpikedNation means a lot to me - it bugs me when certain members drive the wider audience away because I know attracting them means keeping Spiked alive. My YouTube channel grew organically. I never expected it would get to this point - I've outlasted all of the cynical JBP clip channels (they've all been nixed or shut down) and it's just me and a few others who were careful about taking fair use angles on copyrighted clips and sourcing free content for most of our videos, including commentary videos. That said it's been a wild ride - twice I've been threatened with lawsuits, and I stood up to two huge orgs and they backed down. A lot of other channels folded under the threats. I feel a bit guilty about not getting my next JBP vid out sooner but I finally *snip/the rest of it is about your personal life and we won't be going there/snip* Thanks for the email and I'll see you around on Spiked. Best regards, ****** .
Like we said above. Sometimes it's all about context. As I too remember a time where a few of us veteran spikednationals kept this site alive by posting the odd video here or there while others stepped-up and gave of their time to be first-time moderators,.. So along with context, we veterans could promote subtlety. nuance. moderation even. Consider bringing some of that back, will you. If only for old times sake.
(Site Administrator)
revolution lol
god you're a nong