On ice ABS really sucks when it comes to braking distance. Might be double the distance compared to if you just lock up the wheels.
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
Longer yes, however not double. Maybe one fifth longer the advantage is you can still steer while decelerating.
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backdraft (Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
Depends on the conditions and speed. With ice and some snow on top it can be pretty bad with ABS.
Remember in the army they did a demo for us with trucks going 80kmh on ice. I think it was close to double what they got.
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
Anyone going 80km/h on ice on public roads should lose their license forever.
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backdraft (Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
I see you've never visited a nordic country :)
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
Well in nordic countries I believe they still allow spikes on wheels, is that correct?
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backdraft (Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
Yeah, most people drive with studded tyres in the winter here. They give some extra grip but not as much as you'd think. The studs a really small and tend to come off after awhile when you spin the tyre.
We also have winter tyres without studs, we call them friction tyres (not sure what the right translation is). They're good for the southern parts that doesn't get that much snow and ice. Much nicer to drive on asphalt with those but on ice they are pretty bad. On snow they actually perform better than the studded version.
For the past 20 years I've been driving on friction tyres every winter, not because I want to, but because the car I've bought always came with a set of friction tyres and can't bring myself to buy a studded set :) If anything it has thought me to take it slow when needed, pay attention to the road conditions and anticipate situations.
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
Your last sentence summed it up nicely, drive responsibly and the risk of an emergency is reduced. In Germany spiked tyres were introduced in the 70ies but then banned because of the damage they did to the roads.
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backdraft (Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
Yeah they do quite a bit of wear on the road.
After a while you get these deep grooves on the road and then you got a new problem. Hydroplaning when it rains.
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(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
On ice ABS really sucks when it comes to braking distance. Might be double the distance compared to if you just lock up the wheels.
(Old Spike)
Longer yes, however not double. Maybe one fifth longer the advantage is you can still steer while decelerating.
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
Depends on the conditions and speed. With ice and some snow on top it can be pretty bad with ABS.
Remember in the army they did a demo for us with trucks going 80kmh on ice. I think it was close to double what they got.
(Old Spike)
Anyone going 80km/h on ice on public roads should lose their license forever.
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
I see you've never visited a nordic country :)
(Old Spike)
Well in nordic countries I believe they still allow spikes on wheels, is that correct?
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
Yeah, most people drive with studded tyres in the winter here. They give some extra grip but not as much as you'd think. The studs a really small and tend to come off after awhile when you spin the tyre.
We also have winter tyres without studs, we call them friction tyres (not sure what the right translation is). They're good for the southern parts that doesn't get that much snow and ice. Much nicer to drive on asphalt with those but on ice they are pretty bad. On snow they actually perform better than the studded version.
For the past 20 years I've been driving on friction tyres every winter, not because I want to, but because the car I've bought always came with a set of friction tyres and can't bring myself to buy a studded set :) If anything it has thought me to take it slow when needed, pay attention to the road conditions and anticipate situations.
(Old Spike)
Your last sentence summed it up nicely, drive responsibly and the risk of an emergency is reduced. In Germany spiked tyres were introduced in the 70ies but then banned because of the damage they did to the roads.
(Dixie Normous: Image specialist)
Yeah they do quite a bit of wear on the road.
After a while you get these deep grooves on the road and then you got a new problem. Hydroplaning when it rains.