Same rules apply to antivaxxers and climate change deniers btw.!
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danman (Site Administrator)
what rules apply to people who believed that witch on the end of the couch when she introduced the world to the RussiaGate hoax.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
When was the last time anyone here planted a tree or consolidated their transportation with others?
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
In order of asking: This year (about 10) and a few days ago. And what does this have to do with anything?
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Excellent. It's about how you can be the change you want to see.
When you are doing the right thing it doesn't matter what everyone else is up to. :)
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
"When you are doing the right thing it doesn't matter what everyone else is up to"
This is the dumbest bullshit you spilled up to now.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Then something is off for you.
When you do the right thing, with the right intentions, the great feeling you get from that alone is more powerful than any external force.
Let's use a really simple and classic example.
Helping an old lady carry her groceries. There is nothing for you in it really. There is nothing you can benefit from her directly. It is a sacrifice of your time and energy. But, because you are doing it out of the kindness of your heart with a genuine intention of helping someone else, you will walk away from that feeling amazing.
The thought that other people arn't helping old ladies carry their groceries won't even cross your mind.
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
This is not even comparing apples and pairs.....
A valid example would be:
There was an accident and the old lady got stuck underneath a car. I can push all I like as without the help of others I cannot lift the car and save her, if the bystanders pull together we can though, even if a few prefer not to help but rather record it to get views on their favourite www platform when they upload it with comments about how these idiots struggle to get the old hag out and how it's not worth it because she is fucking old and will soon die anyway.
Ring a bell?
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
The accident you are describing in an assumption based on a guessing game.
That guessing game hinges on a chosen belief system.
It's your right to believe what you want, but don't expect everyone to take actions in their lives that are based on your belief system.
That system of course being atheism.
Everything you describe hinges on that, which is fine, except you expect everyone else subscribe to that system and change their lives based upon that.
Atheism assumes the Earth is billions of years old, based on flawed models full of holes that have no real way to be verified.
It assumes God is not in control of the weather and conditions on this planet, and everything is not in fact is as it should be.
Atheisms system seek to rob people of free will.
I would never subscribe to that.
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
"The accident you are describing in an assumption based on a guessing game."
No it is not, it is a hypothetical scenario that puts amirror in front of you.
Atheism is not a belief system.
"Atheism assumes the Earth is billions of years old, based on flawed models full of holes that have no real way to be verified."
It does not. Science does and science varifies it as far as it can.
"It assumes God is not in control of the weather and conditions on this planet, and everything is not in fact is as it should be."
No, it doesn't. The believer assumes that god does, the atheist sees no evidence to assume that.
"Atheisms system seek to rob people of free will"
No they don't it is actually the exact opposite.
Just out of interest how do you think atheism robs people of free will?
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hypothetical scenario = guessing game.
"It does not. Science does and science varifies it as far as it can." The science is not the problem, but simply the scientists and their followers that engage in logical leaps to formulate it's own dogma.
There is nothing verified about the Earth's age, or evolution for that matter. I would link you to a 45 minute video that talks about all of the holes in evolutionary theory that have never been solved but you won't spend 45 minutes watching it. Yet the whole world will parade around like this is the facts of reality without question because that's what they were told.
No, it doesn't. The believer assumes that god does, the atheist sees no evidence to assume that.
Yet everyone, believer and not is expected to rearrange their entire lives to appease the athiestic belief of climate change? Do you even know which collective came up with that idea?
"Just out of interest how do you think atheism robs people of free will?"
Have you seen the extreme "solutions" proposed for so called climate change?
I am robbed of my choice to use cash soon, I am expected to suffer through an energy crises, I am expected to drasticly reduce my meat intake, I am expected to own an electric vehicle, I am expected to use approved fuel and energy sources, I will be expected to pay a carbon tax and have a carbon tracker, and I'm sure there is going to be a whole lot more than that.
I do not consent to any of this, and forcing me to do such is robbing me of my free will. That's just the climate change stuff.
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"There is nothing verified about the Earth's age, or evolution for that matter."
Of course there is. Of course there are "holes" in these theories as we do not have time machines (yet?). The theory of evolution and research on the earth's age are so old, literally everybody involved was religious.
Only the most deluded religious nutters believe the earth is 6k years old.
"...athiestic belief of climate change..."
This is by no means an atheistic belief, plenty of religious scientists take part in this research and support the studies.
The first research on this was done about 100 years ago, since then the basic principles remained the same.
"Have you seen the extreme "solutions" proposed for so called climate change?"
I don't know what you mean, is it abolish christianity?
"I am robbed of my choice to use cash soon, I am expected to suffer through an energy crises, I am expected to drasticly reduce my meat intake, I am expected to own an electric vehicle, I am expected to use approved fuel and energy sources, I will be expected to pay a carbon tax and have a carbon tracker, and I'm sure there is going to be a whole lot more than that."
Most of this is not true and most definitely NONE of it is attached to any religious belief.
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"Only the most deluded religious nutters believe the earth is 6k years old."
It is not specifically stated in the bible the earth is 6k years old. That is an estimate of the geneolgy from Christ to Adam. including 2000 years to now.
It is not specifically stated how long Adam existed in the garden before his fall.
"This is by no means an atheistic belief, plenty of religious scientists take part in this research and support the studies."
Which religions? Which individuals that "claim" to be "practicing" Christians? Sounds like people of little faith.
I don't know what you mean, is it abolish christianity? More like abolish the idea of Christ and salvation. The seeds are being sown everywhere.
"Most of this is not true and most definitely NONE of it is attached to any eligrious belief."
Oh it's all true. What do you think the great reset is about? What do you think sustainable development actually means? Depopulation (which isn't neccessary) Eugenics, transhumanism, own nothing and be happy with it, "In 2030, I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better" - World Economic Forum.
Of course it is attached to religious beliefe. The ruling class worship Lucifer. He grants them the strategies and the means to monopolize resources, with the promise that they will transcend the mortal coil and be like gods under his guidance. He told their ancestors the bible was written by their forefathers, and that he is in fact the lightbearer.
They are just puppets ushering in the new world order as foretold in revelation. 7 years Lucifer will be granted full ownership of the Earth and those that forsake Jesus will suffer God's wrath for their perversions against the saints and the other common man.
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
WOW, just WOW, I must say I am completely speechless. Your delusions are literally limitless.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
For years I have explained the incrementalism seeping into your life.
Drop by drop it materializes one thing at a time. With a pre suaded narrative taking root in your mind to justify each perversion.
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
I actually have one more question:
Where do you actually draw the line between human inventions and progress are "godsent" and "atheist witchcraft"?
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
It is not about what it is. It's about how it is used. - If that answer suffices you can stop here. Below are some examples, as well as how this climate movement will be guided and why.
For example. Some highly legalistic Christians will not even see doctors, or claim that even sowing on a button during the sabbath is sin.
Some ministers like our mutual friends like Copeland or Hinn preach of prosperity among christians.
Nothing wrong with seeing a doctor and recieving treatment obviously, but do not forsake trusting God as well in it's place.
Sometimes there are neccessary tasks you must do on the sabbath. But don't forget about a day of rest for yourself. As the sabbath was decreed for man by God.
Nothing wrong with prosperity, But do not cheat, steal, or swindle to prosper, and do not forget to take a moment to be grateful for what you have.
Same as taking care of the environment. God gave us dominion over the Earth and the animals as caretakers.
Satan stole that dominion from us by seducing us to sin, yet we should still take care of what we have.
Pick up your litter, reduce where you can, reuse when you can. Plant a tree, abide by sustainable hunting and fishing to ensure that the animals may propogate their life cycle properly before serving us as nutrition.
I have no problem with clean energy, I have a problem with how the proposals are being used. Everything is packaged to reduce your quality of life.
Alot of the proposed problems with earth are created by corperations, yet they keep guiding policies in a way the "you" are the problem, and that "you" will go without, Not them.
Factories and high pollution manufacturing won't actually be fundamentally changed or reduced, they will just be shipped to 3rd world nations where you can't see them. Slavery and inequality won't actually be fixed, instead the ruling class will take from the upper class beneath them and crush all but the most resiliant down with everyone else.
The ruling class will still have fuel, they will still have v8 cars, They will have private jets, They will have guns, they will have free speech, they will have the law applied to them differently. It is the commoner that will do without.
Klaus Shwab wrote some of the end game proposals in his 2010 book "The 4th Industrial revolution"
He spoke of the Western world being forcefully decimated because they are too inflexible for his vision of the future. This will be done through wars, famines, and shortages.
Water and energy shortages will be used occasionally "To remind the population that their survival depends on the good will of the comittee of 300."
Climate lockdowns and self driving cars will be a part of every day life to restrict your ability to travel.
"People will be forced to undergo augmentation via Neaural implants and there will be no opting out. Furthermore chemicals will be sprayed in the sky to make it impossible for people to feel anger or depression" Still Klaus' own words.
Eventually the remaining population will be herded through digital locks and social credit score with carbon tracking as well. Your obedience determines what you are allowed to do. Even the grocery store will change from private shops to centralized food hubs. The individual shelves locked behind armored glass. Scan the lock with your phone, you score determines if the shelf opens. Perhaps even your home will have a lock as well.
Some western nations are now talking about land expropriations in favor of community housing. The Justice minister of Canada spoke of this recently. He even claimed that no one has any real property rights, and all land is property of the crown.
Climate change is being used to create a demand for many of these technologies, that on the surface clean the environment, but reall usher is control points to shut everything on and off as the ruling class sees fit.
The Club of Rome (A think tank of the ruling Class) Decided in the 1970's that Climate change would be the most effective unifying factor to encourage compliance among the populace.
If we really cared about clean energy AND keeping people happy and free, we have many better technologies available and in research that balance both. But those are mostly not part of government policy and even sidelined or ignored.
9If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed
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(Site Administrator)
what rules apply to people who believed that witch on the end of the couch when she introduced the world to the RussiaGate hoax.
(Old Spike)
When was the last time anyone here planted a tree or consolidated their transportation with others?
(Old Spike)
In order of asking: This year (about 10) and a few days ago. And what does this have to do with anything?
(Old Spike)
Excellent. It's about how you can be the change you want to see.
When you are doing the right thing it doesn't matter what everyone else is up to. :)
(Old Spike)
"When you are doing the right thing it doesn't matter what everyone else is up to"
This is the dumbest bullshit you spilled up to now.
(Old Spike)
Then something is off for you.
When you do the right thing, with the right intentions, the great feeling you get from that alone is more powerful than any external force.
Let's use a really simple and classic example.
Helping an old lady carry her groceries. There is nothing for you in it really. There is nothing you can benefit from her directly. It is a sacrifice of your time and energy. But, because you are doing it out of the kindness of your heart with a genuine intention of helping someone else, you will walk away from that feeling amazing.
The thought that other people arn't helping old ladies carry their groceries won't even cross your mind.
(Old Spike)
This is not even comparing apples and pairs.....
A valid example would be:
There was an accident and the old lady got stuck underneath a car. I can push all I like as without the help of others I cannot lift the car and save her, if the bystanders pull together we can though, even if a few prefer not to help but rather record it to get views on their favourite www platform when they upload it with comments about how these idiots struggle to get the old hag out and how it's not worth it because she is fucking old and will soon die anyway.
Ring a bell?
(Old Spike)
The accident you are describing in an assumption based on a guessing game.
That guessing game hinges on a chosen belief system.
It's your right to believe what you want, but don't expect everyone to take actions in their lives that are based on your belief system.
That system of course being atheism.
Everything you describe hinges on that, which is fine, except you expect everyone else subscribe to that system and change their lives based upon that.
Atheism assumes the Earth is billions of years old, based on flawed models full of holes that have no real way to be verified.
It assumes God is not in control of the weather and conditions on this planet, and everything is not in fact is as it should be.
Atheisms system seek to rob people of free will.
I would never subscribe to that.
(Old Spike)
"The accident you are describing in an assumption based on a guessing game."
No it is not, it is a hypothetical scenario that puts amirror in front of you.
Atheism is not a belief system.
"Atheism assumes the Earth is billions of years old, based on flawed models full of holes that have no real way to be verified."
It does not. Science does and science varifies it as far as it can.
"It assumes God is not in control of the weather and conditions on this planet, and everything is not in fact is as it should be."
No, it doesn't. The believer assumes that god does, the atheist sees no evidence to assume that.
"Atheisms system seek to rob people of free will"
No they don't it is actually the exact opposite.
Just out of interest how do you think atheism robs people of free will?
(Old Spike)
hypothetical scenario = guessing game.
"It does not. Science does and science varifies it as far as it can." The science is not the problem, but simply the scientists and their followers that engage in logical leaps to formulate it's own dogma.
There is nothing verified about the Earth's age, or evolution for that matter. I would link you to a 45 minute video that talks about all of the holes in evolutionary theory that have never been solved but you won't spend 45 minutes watching it. Yet the whole world will parade around like this is the facts of reality without question because that's what they were told.
No, it doesn't. The believer assumes that god does, the atheist sees no evidence to assume that.
Yet everyone, believer and not is expected to rearrange their entire lives to appease the athiestic belief of climate change? Do you even know which collective came up with that idea?
"Just out of interest how do you think atheism robs people of free will?"
Have you seen the extreme "solutions" proposed for so called climate change?
I am robbed of my choice to use cash soon, I am expected to suffer through an energy crises, I am expected to drasticly reduce my meat intake, I am expected to own an electric vehicle, I am expected to use approved fuel and energy sources, I will be expected to pay a carbon tax and have a carbon tracker, and I'm sure there is going to be a whole lot more than that.
I do not consent to any of this, and forcing me to do such is robbing me of my free will. That's just the climate change stuff.
(Old Spike)
"There is nothing verified about the Earth's age, or evolution for that matter."
Of course there is. Of course there are "holes" in these theories as we do not have time machines (yet?). The theory of evolution and research on the earth's age are so old, literally everybody involved was religious.
Only the most deluded religious nutters believe the earth is 6k years old.
"...athiestic belief of climate change..."
This is by no means an atheistic belief, plenty of religious scientists take part in this research and support the studies.
The first research on this was done about 100 years ago, since then the basic principles remained the same.
"Have you seen the extreme "solutions" proposed for so called climate change?"
I don't know what you mean, is it abolish christianity?
"I am robbed of my choice to use cash soon, I am expected to suffer through an energy crises, I am expected to drasticly reduce my meat intake, I am expected to own an electric vehicle, I am expected to use approved fuel and energy sources, I will be expected to pay a carbon tax and have a carbon tracker, and I'm sure there is going to be a whole lot more than that."
Most of this is not true and most definitely NONE of it is attached to any religious belief.
(Old Spike)
"Only the most deluded religious nutters believe the earth is 6k years old."
It is not specifically stated in the bible the earth is 6k years old. That is an estimate of the geneolgy from Christ to Adam. including 2000 years to now.
It is not specifically stated how long Adam existed in the garden before his fall.
"This is by no means an atheistic belief, plenty of religious scientists take part in this research and support the studies."
Which religions? Which individuals that "claim" to be "practicing" Christians? Sounds like people of little faith.
I don't know what you mean, is it abolish christianity? More like abolish the idea of Christ and salvation. The seeds are being sown everywhere.
"Most of this is not true and most definitely NONE of it is attached to any eligrious belief."
Oh it's all true. What do you think the great reset is about? What do you think sustainable development actually means? Depopulation (which isn't neccessary) Eugenics, transhumanism, own nothing and be happy with it, "In 2030, I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better" - World Economic Forum.
Of course it is attached to religious beliefe. The ruling class worship Lucifer. He grants them the strategies and the means to monopolize resources, with the promise that they will transcend the mortal coil and be like gods under his guidance. He told their ancestors the bible was written by their forefathers, and that he is in fact the lightbearer.
They are just puppets ushering in the new world order as foretold in revelation. 7 years Lucifer will be granted full ownership of the Earth and those that forsake Jesus will suffer God's wrath for their perversions against the saints and the other common man.
(Old Spike)
WOW, just WOW, I must say I am completely speechless. Your delusions are literally limitless.
(Old Spike)
For years I have explained the incrementalism seeping into your life.
Drop by drop it materializes one thing at a time. With a pre suaded narrative taking root in your mind to justify each perversion.
(Old Spike)
I actually have one more question:
Where do you actually draw the line between human inventions and progress are "godsent" and "atheist witchcraft"?
(Old Spike)
It is not about what it is. It's about how it is used. - If that answer suffices you can stop here. Below are some examples, as well as how this climate movement will be guided and why.
For example. Some highly legalistic Christians will not even see doctors, or claim that even sowing on a button during the sabbath is sin.
Some ministers like our mutual friends like Copeland or Hinn preach of prosperity among christians.
Nothing wrong with seeing a doctor and recieving treatment obviously, but do not forsake trusting God as well in it's place.
Sometimes there are neccessary tasks you must do on the sabbath. But don't forget about a day of rest for yourself. As the sabbath was decreed for man by God.
Nothing wrong with prosperity, But do not cheat, steal, or swindle to prosper, and do not forget to take a moment to be grateful for what you have.
Same as taking care of the environment. God gave us dominion over the Earth and the animals as caretakers.
Satan stole that dominion from us by seducing us to sin, yet we should still take care of what we have.
Pick up your litter, reduce where you can, reuse when you can. Plant a tree, abide by sustainable hunting and fishing to ensure that the animals may propogate their life cycle properly before serving us as nutrition.
I have no problem with clean energy, I have a problem with how the proposals are being used. Everything is packaged to reduce your quality of life.
Alot of the proposed problems with earth are created by corperations, yet they keep guiding policies in a way the "you" are the problem, and that "you" will go without, Not them.
Factories and high pollution manufacturing won't actually be fundamentally changed or reduced, they will just be shipped to 3rd world nations where you can't see them. Slavery and inequality won't actually be fixed, instead the ruling class will take from the upper class beneath them and crush all but the most resiliant down with everyone else.
The ruling class will still have fuel, they will still have v8 cars, They will have private jets, They will have guns, they will have free speech, they will have the law applied to them differently. It is the commoner that will do without.
Klaus Shwab wrote some of the end game proposals in his 2010 book "The 4th Industrial revolution"
He spoke of the Western world being forcefully decimated because they are too inflexible for his vision of the future. This will be done through wars, famines, and shortages.
Water and energy shortages will be used occasionally "To remind the population that their survival depends on the good will of the comittee of 300."
Climate lockdowns and self driving cars will be a part of every day life to restrict your ability to travel.
"People will be forced to undergo augmentation via Neaural implants and there will be no opting out. Furthermore chemicals will be sprayed in the sky to make it impossible for people to feel anger or depression" Still Klaus' own words.
Eventually the remaining population will be herded through digital locks and social credit score with carbon tracking as well. Your obedience determines what you are allowed to do. Even the grocery store will change from private shops to centralized food hubs. The individual shelves locked behind armored glass. Scan the lock with your phone, you score determines if the shelf opens. Perhaps even your home will have a lock as well.
Some western nations are now talking about land expropriations in favor of community housing. The Justice minister of Canada spoke of this recently. He even claimed that no one has any real property rights, and all land is property of the crown.
Climate change is being used to create a demand for many of these technologies, that on the surface clean the environment, but reall usher is control points to shut everything on and off as the ruling class sees fit.
The Club of Rome (A think tank of the ruling Class) Decided in the 1970's that Climate change would be the most effective unifying factor to encourage compliance among the populace.
If we really cared about clean energy AND keeping people happy and free, we have many better technologies available and in research that balance both. But those are mostly not part of government policy and even sidelined or ignored.
Revelation chapter 13, verses 16 - 18
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Revelation chapter 13, verses 9 - 15
9If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed
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