Good explanation of the situation BUT doesn't include the 90-day reprieve announced today. [link]
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thegent (Old Spike)
good explaination..think hes right about american companies reputations and trustworthness being damaged by this forcing competetors to search for other options.
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
Looks like I'll have to consider Huawei for my next phone.....
And the times it was worth considering the US as a reliable partner (trade or otherwise) lie 3 years + in the past and may only be restored if the idiot is not in charge any more.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
Latest statement from Huawei founder:
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GKhan (Old Spike)
China will probably come back stronger after they have to replace all US components with their own. In fact, this could spawn China's leadership in hardware.
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thegent (Old Spike)
thats ecaxtly the only outcome of this..
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boldfart (Long Spike)
If google assistant dissapears from my new phone , Then I will buy ir NOW!!!
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sato (Old Spike)
i don't get the fuss, this is all completely logical, and is something china has already been doing to competitors inside china for years and years.
That video only talks about software. Facebook was in China until the riots in 2009 where it was instrumental in what led to ~170 people dying. Other foreign tech giants have had access but haven't gained traction. Eg. Amazon & LinkedIn. Google walked away after not securing a deal they could agree with but they do some business there now. Most of the problems arise from China's data protection & censorship laws - who owns the big data is a massive thing & I see protecting that as forward-thinking, not trade protectionism.
I'm not sure if foreign companies like Uber are squeezed out to allow local operators to retain the market like the guy says but he is a credible source & knows more about it than me so I'll have to concede that does happen as he describes but not on the scale implied in the video IMO.
When it comes to hardware though, this is a completely different ballgame. Most electronics are assembled in China but are part of a global supply chain. I don't know of any hardware that's been squeezed out or banned from the Chinese market. Apple was a hit there.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
The best outcome re: mobile OS that I can think of would be for Huawei to either fork the open source Android or release their own but as an open source project & have a focus on privacy (against the Western spying apparatus). It's an extreme long shot & not really their style but ya never know.
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(Old Spike)
good explaination..think hes right about american companies reputations and trustworthness being damaged by this forcing competetors to search for other options.
(Old Spike)
Looks like I'll have to consider Huawei for my next phone.....
And the times it was worth considering the US as a reliable partner (trade or otherwise) lie 3 years + in the past and may only be restored if the idiot is not in charge any more.
(Old Spike)
Latest statement from Huawei founder:
(Old Spike)
China will probably come back stronger after they have to replace all US components with their own. In fact, this could spawn China's leadership in hardware.
(Old Spike)
thats ecaxtly the only outcome of this..
(Long Spike)
If google assistant dissapears from my new phone , Then I will buy ir NOW!!!
(Old Spike)
i don't get the fuss, this is all completely logical, and is something china has already been doing to competitors inside china for years and years.
(Old Spike)
Which competitors have been banned in China?
(Old Spike)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swuir_7YIPs
(Old Spike)
That video only talks about software. Facebook was in China until the riots in 2009 where it was instrumental in what led to ~170 people dying. Other foreign tech giants have had access but haven't gained traction. Eg. Amazon & LinkedIn. Google walked away after not securing a deal they could agree with but they do some business there now. Most of the problems arise from China's data protection & censorship laws - who owns the big data is a massive thing & I see protecting that as forward-thinking, not trade protectionism.
I'm not sure if foreign companies like Uber are squeezed out to allow local operators to retain the market like the guy says but he is a credible source & knows more about it than me so I'll have to concede that does happen as he describes but not on the scale implied in the video IMO.
When it comes to hardware though, this is a completely different ballgame. Most electronics are assembled in China but are part of a global supply chain. I don't know of any hardware that's been squeezed out or banned from the Chinese market. Apple was a hit there.
(Old Spike)
The best outcome re: mobile OS that I can think of would be for Huawei to either fork the open source Android or release their own but as an open source project & have a focus on privacy (against the Western spying apparatus). It's an extreme long shot & not really their style but ya never know.