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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Nothing more fascist than believing in faith family and community before the state.
If you define victory as keeping dirt at any cost then the depleted uranium rounds might be your ticket.
Your land will be barren and irradiated but you not only kept the dirt, but all the problems that come with it.
Take that Putin!
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
she was part of the italian social movement, a neo-fascist party which was started by followers of mussolini. that party became the national alliance, a post-fascist party
just to make sure were on the same page. a while back you were ok with a store owner stabbing a non-violent thief multiple times. think of the things you're willing to do for whats yours and compare that to what you want ukraine to do because trump lost the election
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
A non violent thief? That thief invaded his personal space. If you ever took self defense you would know that you never give a potential hostile the benefit of the doubt. Being a thief on top of that takes him from potential hostile to a hostile.
You think anything right of far left is fascist. It's boring, predictable, and nobody that matters believes you any more. You have been a minority for quite some time.
It has little to do with a stolen election. It's about de escalating from WWIII. Ukraine isn't worth a world war NATO is not prepared for.
The entire conflict was a failure of diplomacy and nothing else. And the blame will always be placed with the political class that allowed it to happen. Where it belongs.
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
your like, "you never give a potential hostile the benefit of the doubt" while saying to let russia have ukraine and give them the benefit of the doubt they wont go into moldova like they've been saying they would
you're only against things that democrats and most civilized people are for. if trump was the president and we were in the same exact position. you'd be on board for supplying weapons to ukraine
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
I'm already on board for supplying weapons. Under several conditions. 1. You pay up front. 2. We have the production capacity to outpace expenditure. 3. It's not a band aid for a screw up our politicians caused in the first place.
This situation doesn't meet a single one of those criteria.
It's destroying our monetary system, This could have been avoided with politicians that weren't demonizing Russia for 10 years, Ukraine may not pay us back at all. It's depleting our weapons stocks while China prepares an invasion of North America through Canada and the southern border in the next several years.
This whole war is a grift, and it's destroying us. On top of all the other stupid ideas you have.
Now, if you want to sell some weapons that will provide some sweet anti armor capability without poisoning the largest wheat supply on the planet, you should be selling HEAT rounds and tungsten core. Those will do the job without the fallout.
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
everything is paid for already. that money never left the countries it was donated from, they get old equipment and we get net equipment. its creating jobs to make the new equipment. were not instituting a new taxes and were not cutting anything either. that means we had the money. the war isn't destroying our economy, like you said a little while ago. you're doing great with the roofing and this is supposedly after a pandemic that was suppose to destroy our economy, along with that. we were suppose to have starved because a shortage of food and that were suppose to have died because of the vaccine.
everything you've ran with for a while has been flat out wrong. you've made going against reality you're personality
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
If everything was paid for we wouldn't be sending 10's of billions to Ukraine. You saying they paid us with the money we sent them?
100's of thousands are dying from the vaccine. That's what the myocarditus and died suddenly's blood clots are about. That they blame on covid, Stroke season, sudden adult death syndrome and even climate change lol. The former director of the CDC is currently speaking with congress about the safety of the vaccine.
All the conditions are being created for starvation. 2 biggest wheat producers in the world, 1 we are at war with, and another is in war blocked from producing. 1000 train sabotages in the last calendar year alone. over 200 food processing plants burning down mysteriously in the U.S. last year. Governments shutting down and stealing farms for climate change. These create the conditions for famine. Where do you think all the immigrants are coming from as 3rd world nations starve out. Not Ukraine.
You think the banking collapses are over? Just getting started. Social security is being paid directly from printed money from the federal reserve. Used to be paid by liquid funds from the department of social security. You think printed money is free? It's not. You think inflation is done? It's just getting started.
If the world imposing sanctions was so effective at destroying an enemy Cuba would have died a long time ago. The have been sanctioned since the 60's and they haven't gone anywhere lol.
Did you really expect everything to culminate overnight?
Of course I'm doing great with roofing and I always will. You need a roof more than you need electricity and plumbing. The former is non negotiable, the latter under extreme situations is negotiable.
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
we're not delivering money to ukraine with hope that they give it back to us. we put aside money from existing budgeted money. we then use that money to "purchase" what we send them.
we won't starve. the west doesn't really get its wheat from ukraine. you don't give a shit about immigrants. you don't want to take them in. you want to apply conditions for weapons that they'll never be able to achieve as an excuse not to supply them. you don't want to go to war to stop it, so i doubt you'll give a shit about starving pakistanis.
where are the bodies? millions of medical staff. military personnel and politicians haven't been dying suddenly even though they're mandated harder than anyone else? they have to keep up date yet, nobody dies. its always your neighbors friends mail man's dog walker's aunt
1000 train sabotages, 200 food processing plant fires along with everything you've said is utter nonsense, the same people that's been telling you that shit were also saying that russia wasn't going to invade ukraine as they were building up military gear on the border. like i said. you've made rejecting reality, you're personality
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Budgeted money.... Where did the money come from?
Our own food supply is being sabotaged, farms being seized, animals being culled in their millions due to fake virus scares and green agenda rubbish, meanwhile accepting droves of immigrants which devour our remaining food food after their nations dry up. 1000 train sabotages and 200 plus food processing plants is fact, a number through mysterious plane crashes lol.
military personnel and medical staff are dying, they just won't tell you about it for the same reason they will not nail Trump for the vaccines. because the journalists that pushed them are just as guilty. Phizer was court ordered to release the side effects they wanted sealed until 2070. 1600 debilitating side effects. Including aids, blood clots, and cancer among other things. Politicians are given saline solution. It would look pretty obvious if they started dying.
life insurance claims for deceased vaccinated are off the charts. embalmers are reporting blood clots the length of your arm of a semi synthetic nature.
Everything I said is the truth. And you believe every word, but you will never admit it out of pure spite. I pegged you as a nihlist and I was right. You hate humanity and you will do everything in your little world to watch everything burn.
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
all you say is based on bullshit. records aren't sealed. they process and release 500 pages every month. the foia request is for 329k pages. the conspiracy theory its going to be sealed till 2076.
500pages x 12months = 6000 pages a year
2076-2023 = 53 years
6000 pages a year x 53 years = 318k pages are process and released over 53 years
just another layer to your crazy cake. nothings ever going to happen and you're going to say that you stopped it or that it almost happened
i don't want to see the world burn, just your beliefs
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
It doesn't take a month to print 500 pages. You can get all 318 k pages printed in a month. They can release it all right now.
Did it take them 50 + years to gather all that data to begin with? No of course it didn't. Hit print and send it all out. The people can decide what's worth looking at.
But they won't. They are stalling for time.
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
foia isn't just printing. its getting people to sift through thousands of pages to get the ones that are relevant to the request. you want to know the effects. you don't get the recipe, you don't get personal emails. you don't get to know that leslie from hr is in an extra marital relationship with stephanie from accounting. thats the process and its been the process. this one foia isn't the only one thats being worked on. about 800k requests are made every year
thats reality for you. so instead of accepting it, you're probably transitioning to this kind of thinking
you want to speed up it with more hiring more government employees. but those jobs usually go to better educated people and during these times, more diverse people. so that's more likely going to be vaccinated liberals paid off by soros and gates to omit damaging information
how much time do you spend looking to things for the purpose of seeing if you're wrong?
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Hr and accounting don't handle vaccine research. If they know it's 329k pages then they have already been sorted for relevant information. A company that big that handles important things like biological research won't have organization problems. Everything will be exactly in it's place.
And the safety and efficacy of an illegally mandated vaccine takes priority over the other requests. This isn't McDonalds'.
They are stalling as well as trying to cook the information they hand out, Because when this gets out that over a billion people have been poisoned 1000's of doctors, nurses, politicians, pharma executives and journalists are going to be hanged for pushing it. and you are terrible at covering for them.
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
if you don't know how it works, don't tell me how it works. hours ago you thought they were trying to have it sealed till 2070. nothing you say about the matter is based in reality. its always someone elses fault because you're a fucking idiot. remember how its trudeau's fault that the conservative mps of provinces passed mandates. or how its trudeaus fault that trump instituted rules to not allow unvaccinated canadians from entering the states. you're guys were pretty much using studies comparing people who like apples to oranges to say the vaccines don't work
think of what people like you are going to with with information that shows vaccines work. you're going to show up to peoples home and kill them cause you don't know any better
i don't care how crazy you are, i'm not pulling you back from the ledge, i'm pushing you towards it
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Oh they are trying to have it sealed, you haven't changed my mind one bit, I just poked holes in your logic. I'll say what I please and no one will be able to stop me. There's plenty of blame to go around, we don't want to give Trudeau too much credit. There is not a single good representative holding a seat. Everyone is there because they were selected to be there.
Your confession through projection is alone is very telling that everything you believe is based on fiction, "getting there first" in this discussion does nothing to change that.
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
the only hole you're poking is your roommates asshole. i'm not trying to change your mind or get you to stop. i'm simply trying to show what you thought, what is actually is and how you respond to it. its better that people know just how crazy you are so when they're seeking pro trump, pro covid and pro russia compium, they've got to contend that they're getting it from you
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
No, what you always do dishonestly is attempt frame control. To associate people with whom you disagree with unrelated groups that have a bad smell. So that they only judge the person and not the information they state.
You try to control how people think every day, and in your world there is no room for any opinion that does not come from authoritarian sources.
You would think with so much practice people get better at things, but because you are not adaptive you have actually gotten worse.
You're like a musician that practices a song the wrong way. Building bad habits and just spinning your wheels rather than actually getting better.
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jdt73 (Short Spike)
Ukraine stopped being a 'sovereign' nation 2014 when a western backed coup d'etat overthrew the legitimate government and then declared war on th people who refused to recognize the stolen authority of the new regime.
Ukraine is nothing more than a US puppet state like the Shah of Iran. A nation destined to be cannon fodder for the west
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(Old Spike)
Nothing more fascist than believing in faith family and community before the state.
If you define victory as keeping dirt at any cost then the depleted uranium rounds might be your ticket.
Your land will be barren and irradiated but you not only kept the dirt, but all the problems that come with it.
Take that Putin!
(Old Spike)
she was part of the italian social movement, a neo-fascist party which was started by followers of mussolini. that party became the national alliance, a post-fascist party
just to make sure were on the same page. a while back you were ok with a store owner stabbing a non-violent thief multiple times. think of the things you're willing to do for whats yours and compare that to what you want ukraine to do because trump lost the election
(Old Spike)
A non violent thief? That thief invaded his personal space. If you ever took self defense you would know that you never give a potential hostile the benefit of the doubt. Being a thief on top of that takes him from potential hostile to a hostile.
You think anything right of far left is fascist. It's boring, predictable, and nobody that matters believes you any more. You have been a minority for quite some time.
It has little to do with a stolen election. It's about de escalating from WWIII. Ukraine isn't worth a world war NATO is not prepared for.
The entire conflict was a failure of diplomacy and nothing else. And the blame will always be placed with the political class that allowed it to happen. Where it belongs.
(Old Spike)
your like, "you never give a potential hostile the benefit of the doubt" while saying to let russia have ukraine and give them the benefit of the doubt they wont go into moldova like they've been saying they would
you're only against things that democrats and most civilized people are for. if trump was the president and we were in the same exact position. you'd be on board for supplying weapons to ukraine
(Old Spike)
I'm already on board for supplying weapons. Under several conditions. 1. You pay up front. 2. We have the production capacity to outpace expenditure. 3. It's not a band aid for a screw up our politicians caused in the first place.
This situation doesn't meet a single one of those criteria.
It's destroying our monetary system, This could have been avoided with politicians that weren't demonizing Russia for 10 years, Ukraine may not pay us back at all. It's depleting our weapons stocks while China prepares an invasion of North America through Canada and the southern border in the next several years.
This whole war is a grift, and it's destroying us. On top of all the other stupid ideas you have.
Now, if you want to sell some weapons that will provide some sweet anti armor capability without poisoning the largest wheat supply on the planet, you should be selling HEAT rounds and tungsten core. Those will do the job without the fallout.
(Old Spike)
everything is paid for already. that money never left the countries it was donated from, they get old equipment and we get net equipment. its creating jobs to make the new equipment. were not instituting a new taxes and were not cutting anything either. that means we had the money. the war isn't destroying our economy, like you said a little while ago. you're doing great with the roofing and this is supposedly after a pandemic that was suppose to destroy our economy, along with that. we were suppose to have starved because a shortage of food and that were suppose to have died because of the vaccine.
everything you've ran with for a while has been flat out wrong. you've made going against reality you're personality
(Old Spike)
If everything was paid for we wouldn't be sending 10's of billions to Ukraine. You saying they paid us with the money we sent them?
100's of thousands are dying from the vaccine. That's what the myocarditus and died suddenly's blood clots are about. That they blame on covid, Stroke season, sudden adult death syndrome and even climate change lol. The former director of the CDC is currently speaking with congress about the safety of the vaccine.
All the conditions are being created for starvation. 2 biggest wheat producers in the world, 1 we are at war with, and another is in war blocked from producing. 1000 train sabotages in the last calendar year alone. over 200 food processing plants burning down mysteriously in the U.S. last year. Governments shutting down and stealing farms for climate change. These create the conditions for famine. Where do you think all the immigrants are coming from as 3rd world nations starve out. Not Ukraine.
You think the banking collapses are over? Just getting started. Social security is being paid directly from printed money from the federal reserve. Used to be paid by liquid funds from the department of social security. You think printed money is free? It's not. You think inflation is done? It's just getting started.
If the world imposing sanctions was so effective at destroying an enemy Cuba would have died a long time ago. The have been sanctioned since the 60's and they haven't gone anywhere lol.
Did you really expect everything to culminate overnight?
Of course I'm doing great with roofing and I always will. You need a roof more than you need electricity and plumbing. The former is non negotiable, the latter under extreme situations is negotiable.
(Old Spike)
we're not delivering money to ukraine with hope that they give it back to us. we put aside money from existing budgeted money. we then use that money to "purchase" what we send them.
we won't starve. the west doesn't really get its wheat from ukraine. you don't give a shit about immigrants. you don't want to take them in. you want to apply conditions for weapons that they'll never be able to achieve as an excuse not to supply them. you don't want to go to war to stop it, so i doubt you'll give a shit about starving pakistanis.
where are the bodies? millions of medical staff. military personnel and politicians haven't been dying suddenly even though they're mandated harder than anyone else? they have to keep up date yet, nobody dies. its always your neighbors friends mail man's dog walker's aunt
1000 train sabotages, 200 food processing plant fires along with everything you've said is utter nonsense, the same people that's been telling you that shit were also saying that russia wasn't going to invade ukraine as they were building up military gear on the border. like i said. you've made rejecting reality, you're personality
(Old Spike)
Budgeted money.... Where did the money come from?
Our own food supply is being sabotaged, farms being seized, animals being culled in their millions due to fake virus scares and green agenda rubbish, meanwhile accepting droves of immigrants which devour our remaining food food after their nations dry up. 1000 train sabotages and 200 plus food processing plants is fact, a number through mysterious plane crashes lol.
military personnel and medical staff are dying, they just won't tell you about it for the same reason they will not nail Trump for the vaccines. because the journalists that pushed them are just as guilty. Phizer was court ordered to release the side effects they wanted sealed until 2070. 1600 debilitating side effects. Including aids, blood clots, and cancer among other things. Politicians are given saline solution. It would look pretty obvious if they started dying.
life insurance claims for deceased vaccinated are off the charts. embalmers are reporting blood clots the length of your arm of a semi synthetic nature.
Everything I said is the truth. And you believe every word, but you will never admit it out of pure spite. I pegged you as a nihlist and I was right. You hate humanity and you will do everything in your little world to watch everything burn.
(Old Spike)
all you say is based on bullshit. records aren't sealed. they process and release 500 pages every month. the foia request is for 329k pages. the conspiracy theory its going to be sealed till 2076.
500pages x 12months = 6000 pages a year
2076-2023 = 53 years
6000 pages a year x 53 years = 318k pages are process and released over 53 years
just another layer to your crazy cake. nothings ever going to happen and you're going to say that you stopped it or that it almost happened
i don't want to see the world burn, just your beliefs
(Old Spike)
It doesn't take a month to print 500 pages. You can get all 318 k pages printed in a month. They can release it all right now.
Did it take them 50 + years to gather all that data to begin with? No of course it didn't. Hit print and send it all out. The people can decide what's worth looking at.
But they won't. They are stalling for time.
(Old Spike)
foia isn't just printing. its getting people to sift through thousands of pages to get the ones that are relevant to the request. you want to know the effects. you don't get the recipe, you don't get personal emails. you don't get to know that leslie from hr is in an extra marital relationship with stephanie from accounting. thats the process and its been the process. this one foia isn't the only one thats being worked on. about 800k requests are made every year
thats reality for you. so instead of accepting it, you're probably transitioning to this kind of thinking
you want to speed up it with more hiring more government employees. but those jobs usually go to better educated people and during these times, more diverse people. so that's more likely going to be vaccinated liberals paid off by soros and gates to omit damaging information
how much time do you spend looking to things for the purpose of seeing if you're wrong?
(Old Spike)
Hr and accounting don't handle vaccine research. If they know it's 329k pages then they have already been sorted for relevant information. A company that big that handles important things like biological research won't have organization problems. Everything will be exactly in it's place.
And the safety and efficacy of an illegally mandated vaccine takes priority over the other requests. This isn't McDonalds'.
They are stalling as well as trying to cook the information they hand out, Because when this gets out that over a billion people have been poisoned 1000's of doctors, nurses, politicians, pharma executives and journalists are going to be hanged for pushing it. and you are terrible at covering for them.
(Old Spike)
if you don't know how it works, don't tell me how it works. hours ago you thought they were trying to have it sealed till 2070. nothing you say about the matter is based in reality. its always someone elses fault because you're a fucking idiot. remember how its trudeau's fault that the conservative mps of provinces passed mandates. or how its trudeaus fault that trump instituted rules to not allow unvaccinated canadians from entering the states. you're guys were pretty much using studies comparing people who like apples to oranges to say the vaccines don't work
think of what people like you are going to with with information that shows vaccines work. you're going to show up to peoples home and kill them cause you don't know any better
i don't care how crazy you are, i'm not pulling you back from the ledge, i'm pushing you towards it
(Old Spike)
Oh they are trying to have it sealed, you haven't changed my mind one bit, I just poked holes in your logic. I'll say what I please and no one will be able to stop me. There's plenty of blame to go around, we don't want to give Trudeau too much credit. There is not a single good representative holding a seat. Everyone is there because they were selected to be there.
Your confession through projection is alone is very telling that everything you believe is based on fiction, "getting there first" in this discussion does nothing to change that.
(Old Spike)
the only hole you're poking is your roommates asshole. i'm not trying to change your mind or get you to stop. i'm simply trying to show what you thought, what is actually is and how you respond to it. its better that people know just how crazy you are so when they're seeking pro trump, pro covid and pro russia compium, they've got to contend that they're getting it from you
(Old Spike)
No, what you always do dishonestly is attempt frame control. To associate people with whom you disagree with unrelated groups that have a bad smell. So that they only judge the person and not the information they state.
You try to control how people think every day, and in your world there is no room for any opinion that does not come from authoritarian sources.
You would think with so much practice people get better at things, but because you are not adaptive you have actually gotten worse.
You're like a musician that practices a song the wrong way. Building bad habits and just spinning your wheels rather than actually getting better.
(Short Spike)
Ukraine stopped being a 'sovereign' nation 2014 when a western backed coup d'etat overthrew the legitimate government and then declared war on th people who refused to recognize the stolen authority of the new regime.
Ukraine is nothing more than a US puppet state like the Shah of Iran. A nation destined to be cannon fodder for the west