Total bullshit! All of the things in the report that show what a shitshow the Trump presidency is are complete lies. Everything else is complete exoneration.....
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
Are you willing to admit Mueller found no evidence of collusion?
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
No. The term collusion being used by every side is pure stupidity as referenced in the report:
In evaluating whether evidence about collective action of multiple individuals constituted a crime, we applied the framework of conspiracy law, not the concept of “collusion.” In so doing, the Office recognized that the word “collud[e]”…has frequently been invoked in public reporting about the investigation. But collusion is not a specific offense or theory of liability found in the United States Code, nor is it a term of art in federal criminal law. For those reasons, the Office’s focus in analyzing questions of joint criminal liability was on conspiracy as defined in federal law.
There was evidence of criminal liability and conspiracy found in the report despite Trump's repetitive babbling of "No collusion" over and over and over again but no charges can be brought against a sitting president as was clear before there ever was an investigation. Try listening to various world news outlets rather than believing everything on Trumptard state media. If you can seriously see your hero Trump as coming through this clean, you are just a special person.
The report found a TON of material that showed the Trump carnival to be a complete shitshow. Keep believing Don the Con though if it makes you happy.
The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign. The investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts. The Russian government DID in fact interfere in the 2016 presidential election as established by every U.S. intelligence service while somehow refuted by Donald Trump.
Don the Con bringing a lawsuit today to hide his tax returns is just business as usual in the Trump crime family shitshow to the point where it's actually comedic, especially when a bloc of people believe everything he says.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
I would say not going to war with Russia would benefit everyone.
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
Where did "Going to war with Russia" come from?
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Hillary Clinton.
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
Can't stand Hillary. Impressive fortune telling skills.
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
There was no conspiracy between the Trump campaign & the Russian government...aka collusion. To pretend otherwise is to continue living in fantasyland, as is shifting the goalposts to obstruction without calling for his impeachment.
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
You have inside info? How do you know that? Opinions are not facts. You stated your opinion as if it's a fact. A lot of evidence points towards Trump colluding with the Russian government. I believe he did because of the meeting in Trump tower, Manafort meeting with Russian contacts, etc. Just my opinion but definitely isn't out of nowhere.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
You need to unhook from the news and focus on your skills, whichever ones you chose. Those are what is going to make your life better. Not bickering about the weekly dose of certified bullshit.
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
W-O-W
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
Mueller's team has not been able to prove collusion between Trump & Russia in the alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election.
I've not seen any evidence to convince me of this either, after taking a pretty good look at the available facts. This is my opinion, I don't have to type "in my opinion" after every comment I make, it's implied.
Now that the Mueller report is out, it's fairly widely accepted that there was no collusion in the alleged interference and there appears little enthusiasm among Democrat leadership to take it any further. If you want it taken further you should be screaming about them, not about people who don't share your opinion.
Manafort's contacts were Ukrainian, not Russian. The Trump tower meeting went nowhere and was about gathering dirt on Hillary, just as Hillary gathered dirt on Trump, indirectly from alleged Russian sources (read: British bullshit-artist). This is not against the law & it's not the interference the DoJ is claiming took place.
I konw it's not "out of nowhere" but it's been 2 years of leaks & now the report is out. If there was a smoking gun you would be able to point to it by now, surely.
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
Blah, blah, blah. You'll never get it. Trump is your hero, I get it. You are a sad example of Trumptard Nation but that's your right. You should really dabble in reality a little but your alternate reality is your safe space I guess.
The Ukrainians were conduits to the Russian government genius.
"The Trump tower meeting went nowhere and was about gathering dirt on Hillary, just as Hillary gathered dirt on Trump" No way are you so stupid that you really believe that. Or was it just about adoptions?
Yeah, in your alternate reality, the report cleared Trump completely.
Mueller does not mince words about the president’s potential obstruction of justice, stating: “If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment.”
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danmanjones (Old Spike)
The Ukrainians were conduits to the Russian government
Got any proof of this?
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
The Ukrainians were known pro-Russian lobbyists, so it might seem shady but that's flimsy evidence so it's just an opinion like your opinion that your dear leader is completely innocent and running a tight ship.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Throws away REAL advice about building skills.
Tells others to live in reality.
My sides hurt.
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monkeymania (Long Spike)
Concentrate on recovering from your extremely low IQ.
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Truthy (Member)
101 contacts between Russian government-linked persons and the Trump campaign. 23 meetings and calls Passing down internal polling data to a GRU agent (Klimnik). It does not get any clearer, but the ignorace of the cultists is as eternal as their leader's.
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(Old Spike)
Flashback to December 2017, this star Guardian 'journalist' was making bank from the collusion lie...
(Long Spike)
Total bullshit! All of the things in the report that show what a shitshow the Trump presidency is are complete lies. Everything else is complete exoneration.....
(Old Spike)
Are you willing to admit Mueller found no evidence of collusion?
(Long Spike)
No. The term collusion being used by every side is pure stupidity as referenced in the report:
In evaluating whether evidence about collective action of multiple individuals constituted a crime, we applied the framework of conspiracy law, not the concept of “collusion.” In so doing, the Office recognized that the word “collud[e]”…has frequently been invoked in public reporting about the investigation. But collusion is not a specific offense or theory of liability found in the United States Code, nor is it a term of art in federal criminal law. For those reasons, the Office’s focus in analyzing questions of joint criminal liability was on conspiracy as defined in federal law.
There was evidence of criminal liability and conspiracy found in the report despite Trump's repetitive babbling of "No collusion" over and over and over again but no charges can be brought against a sitting president as was clear before there ever was an investigation. Try listening to various world news outlets rather than believing everything on Trumptard state media. If you can seriously see your hero Trump as coming through this clean, you are just a special person.
The report found a TON of material that showed the Trump carnival to be a complete shitshow. Keep believing Don the Con though if it makes you happy.
The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign. The investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts. The Russian government DID in fact interfere in the 2016 presidential election as established by every U.S. intelligence service while somehow refuted by Donald Trump.
Don the Con bringing a lawsuit today to hide his tax returns is just business as usual in the Trump crime family shitshow to the point where it's actually comedic, especially when a bloc of people believe everything he says.
(Old Spike)
I would say not going to war with Russia would benefit everyone.
(Long Spike)
Where did "Going to war with Russia" come from?
(Old Spike)
Hillary Clinton.
(Long Spike)
Can't stand Hillary. Impressive fortune telling skills.
(Old Spike)
There was no conspiracy between the Trump campaign & the Russian government...aka collusion. To pretend otherwise is to continue living in fantasyland, as is shifting the goalposts to obstruction without calling for his impeachment.
(Long Spike)
You have inside info? How do you know that? Opinions are not facts. You stated your opinion as if it's a fact. A lot of evidence points towards Trump colluding with the Russian government. I believe he did because of the meeting in Trump tower, Manafort meeting with Russian contacts, etc. Just my opinion but definitely isn't out of nowhere.
(Old Spike)
You need to unhook from the news and focus on your skills, whichever ones you chose. Those are what is going to make your life better. Not bickering about the weekly dose of certified bullshit.
(Long Spike)
W-O-W
(Old Spike)
Mueller's team has not been able to prove collusion between Trump & Russia in the alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election.
I've not seen any evidence to convince me of this either, after taking a pretty good look at the available facts. This is my opinion, I don't have to type "in my opinion" after every comment I make, it's implied.
Now that the Mueller report is out, it's fairly widely accepted that there was no collusion in the alleged interference and there appears little enthusiasm among Democrat leadership to take it any further. If you want it taken further you should be screaming about them, not about people who don't share your opinion.
Manafort's contacts were Ukrainian, not Russian. The Trump tower meeting went nowhere and was about gathering dirt on Hillary, just as Hillary gathered dirt on Trump, indirectly from alleged Russian sources (read: British bullshit-artist). This is not against the law & it's not the interference the DoJ is claiming took place.
I konw it's not "out of nowhere" but it's been 2 years of leaks & now the report is out. If there was a smoking gun you would be able to point to it by now, surely.
(Long Spike)
Blah, blah, blah. You'll never get it. Trump is your hero, I get it. You are a sad example of Trumptard Nation but that's your right. You should really dabble in reality a little but your alternate reality is your safe space I guess.
The Ukrainians were conduits to the Russian government genius.
"The Trump tower meeting went nowhere and was about gathering dirt on Hillary, just as Hillary gathered dirt on Trump" No way are you so stupid that you really believe that. Or was it just about adoptions?
Yeah, in your alternate reality, the report cleared Trump completely.
Mueller does not mince words about the president’s potential obstruction of justice, stating: “If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment.”
(Old Spike)
The Ukrainians were conduits to the Russian government
Got any proof of this?
(Long Spike)
The Ukrainians were known pro-Russian lobbyists, so it might seem shady but that's flimsy evidence so it's just an opinion like your opinion that your dear leader is completely innocent and running a tight ship.
(Old Spike)
Throws away REAL advice about building skills.
Tells others to live in reality.
My sides hurt.
(Long Spike)
Concentrate on recovering from your extremely low IQ.
(Member)
101 contacts between Russian government-linked persons and the Trump campaign. 23 meetings and calls Passing down internal polling data to a GRU agent (Klimnik). It does not get any clearer, but the ignorace of the cultists is as eternal as their leader's.
Remember Seth Rich? I remember.