Wait, I thought only black people were on welfare.
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Fullauto223cal (Old Spike)
Well, according to leftism she is black. So I guess from a certain point of view, you're not wrong.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
I always thought under achievers were on welfare. Oh wait...
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skeptoid (Old Spike)
Why are two people frequently placed front and center as the leaders of the African American suffrage movement both white people who are pretending to be black people? There's also that Shaun King guy.
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Grothesk (Long Spike)
Because the "liberal media" isn't always liberal. The media focuses on what sells, and focusing on a buffoon like Dolezal puts those eyes on the screen.
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skeptoid (Old Spike)
Well then, as I always say, fuck the MSM for their failures.
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Fullauto223cal (Old Spike)
"buffoon like Dolezal"
A white woman fraudulently represents herself as a black woman and she is a baffoon.
A man/woman fraudulently represents themselves as a woman/man and they are brave.
Leftist logic.
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She's a buffoon for parading herself as a black person while working with the NAACP. Whatever strawman figure you're comparing her to I guess can be whoever you wish. Do you have a name for your strawman figure or should we just say you're referring to Jane/John Doe?
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A straw-man you say? I seem to remember a long post with multiple photos of people suffering from gender confusion more or less telling me I was a shit person for not engaging in their fantasy. I'm sorry, perhaps you have changed your view since last we discussed the issue. Please, bring me up to speed.
Is Bruce Jenner "brave" for being an open fraud and presenting himself as a woman to the public?
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I remember that post as well...I intentionally linked images of a *mixture* of women that had vaginas and looked like women, transgendered women, and transgendered men and then I asked you to identify their sex. You balked completely and it showed the foolishness in which you view the world through an ON/OFF lens.
Your stupid fucking question above is loaded as fuck: is she "brave"? Are YOU stating she's brave? Who is stating that Jenner is brave and should we uphold their opinion as something to which we adhere? What I was addressing above is that you *SPECIFICALLY* named Dolezal as one party and then you compared to her an amorphous, unknown entity that apparently symbolizes all transgender people. If you want to compare Jenner against Dolezal, then let's do it. Dolezal is specifically Caucasian but presented herself as "black" and stated that she was black. Jenner *was* specifically a man (and I bet even you would concede that point) and now presents himself as a woman...which *is* the case.
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I remember that post as well...I intentionally linked images of a *mixture* of women that had vaginas and looked like women, transgendered women, and transgendered men and then I asked you to identify their sex. You balked completely and it showed the foolishness in which you view the world through an ON/OFF lens.
Indeed I did balk, as that is what one does when confronted with completely pointless statements like yours. Your were attempting to convince me that if a woman has every appearance of a man, that somehow that makes the woman a man.
Your attempt to separate gender and sex is foolish. BTW, we are not talking about the world, we are talking about gender and I hate to break it to you but if you don't understand how sex chromosomes work then you are the fool. That is some shit you were suppose to learn in high school. Allow me to explain it again, cutting off your tits, getting jacked on testosterone and having your clit cut up to make a fake penis and balls does not make a woman a man. If you think it does you are a fucking fool.
My lense is that of facts. Biology tells us that gender is an ON/OFF, or should I say X/Y (disregarding mutations), reality. A person either has a Y chromosome or they don't. If they don't then no amount of slicing and dicing and drugs is going to make a shits worth of difference other than to perhaps help that person cope with their mental illness.
Your stupid fucking question above is loaded as fuck: is she "brave"? Are YOU stating she's brave?
I'm not stating it, the entire leftist establishment media said she was "brave" so I was just seeing if you agreed. I think Bruce Jenner is afflicted with a mental illness in need of treatment. The left would rather force everyone under threat of public shaming to play along with his fantasy.
Who is stating that Jenner is brave and should we uphold their opinion as something to which we adhere?
They are -> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jul/15/caitlyn-jenner-receives-espy-award-and-says-transgender-people-deserve-respect
And why can't you just answer the question instead of repeating it back to me. Fuck no I don't uphold their opinion, but you are of their leftist world view so I was curious how far down the rabbit hole you've gone.
What I was addressing above is that you *SPECIFICALLY* named Dolezal as one party and then you compared to her an amorphous, unknown entity that apparently symbolizes all transgender people.
Like that fucking matters. Insert what ever gender confused person you would like into my post and the point stands. That point being that left will dog pile anyone who dares say there is something wrong with gender confused individuals, but let a woman come along who is racially confused and fuck her, she's just a bafoon.
If you want to compare Jenner against Dolezal, then let's do it. Dolezal is specifically Caucasian but presented herself as "black" and stated that she was black. Jenner *was* specifically a man (and I bet even you would concede that point) and now presents himself as a woman...which *is* the case.
Dolezal is specifically Caucasian but presented herself as "black" and stated that she was black.
That is correct.
Jenner *was* specifically a man (and I bet even you would concede that point) and now presents himself as a woman...which *is* the case.
Jenner STILL IS specifically a MAN. He now fraudulently PRESENTS HIMSELF as a woman, which is not the case.
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Grothesk (Long Spike)
The only reason you're so adamantly sure about Caitlyn Jenner is because the knowledge that he "was once a man" has been revealed to you. The reason I showed you those myriad of images showcases that your own worldview fails miserably when it comes to how you yourself wish to view it...YOU cannot even abid by your own rules. According to you, if someone is a man then they're a man no matter what and you should be able to instantly and easily be able to tell, right? Because it's just so obvious to you, right? So why did you balk at my "is this a man or woman" test? Shouldn't you have been able to know because it's simply so obvious?
Or...and I know this is going to challenge you on a fundamental level...do you think that perhaps gender and sex are not immediately apparent? Your own worldview states that gender and sex *should* be immediately obvious; so why aren't they? It's almost as though your worldview is extremely flawed. You view the world through a very narrow lens of "can I fuck a vagina on that being or can I not?" You then claw for power and tell someone who has known for years that they are a male that they are instead a female...simply because that's how YOU see the world. It's a very selfish, chidlish, and egotistical way to view others, which is why you're painted as the asshole that you are for holding it.
But we've moved on from that point. Your opinion on someone's gender is fairly irrelevant. If you were to tell Caitlyn Jenner your opinion on her gender I'm sure she could give a shit.
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Fullauto223cal (Old Spike)
The only reason you're so adamantly sure about Caitlyn Jenner is because the knowledge that he "was once a man" has been revealed to you.
You still don't get. Fuck me Mr. Fudd, why are you so willfully dense and in denial of reality. I swear, arguing with you is like arguing with a Christian about their irrational beliefs.
It doesn't matter if I know Bruce Jenner is a man. The makeup of Bruce Jenner's DNA is MALE regardless of mine or your awareness of that fact. I suspect you being willfully ignorant to avoid dealing with the inevitable cognitive dissonance.
What if I told you that “The only reason you’re calling Rachel a bafoon is because the knowledge that she ‘was once white’ has been revealed to you.” I would literally sound like a fucking idiot. Why? Because it does not matter if people believe she is black, the reality is that she is a white woman.
Likewise, your claim that Bruce Jenner “was once a man” is a fucking moronic statement as it is based on the ludicrous assertion that a man can choose to be something else. I am a human, that is what my DNA says. I can no more choose to be a horse than Bruce can choose to be a woman or Rachel can choose to be black.
The reason I showed you those myriad of images showcases that your own worldview fails miserably when it comes to how you yourself wish to view it.
My worldview is based on objective reality. Your world view is seemingly based on subjective assertions based on wishful thinking with the enforcement by means of hate speech laws.
Your “myriad of images” prove nothing and the post was a complete and utter waste of your time.
According to you, if someone is a man then they're a man no matter what and you should be able to instantly and easily be able to tell, right?
WRONG AGAIN!!
The fact that they are a man HAS FUCK ALL to do with my ability to “instantly and easily be able to tell”. A man is a man because of his biology. Suppose a person is afflicted with some other genetic disorder, it doesn’t matter if I can “instantly and easily” tell they have it. It exists regardless of my knowledge of it. It does not matter how well a gender confused individual disguises their actual biological gender, they are the gender their DNA says they are.
Because it's just so obvious to you, right? So why did you balk at my "is this a man or woman" test?
Simple, it was a completely pointless test. My inability to see through their cosmetic alterations does not matter in the least.
do you think that perhaps gender and sex are not immediately apparent?
I never claimed they were immediately apparent. Again, you keep going down the dead-end road about what I may or may not know. Reality exists regardless of my knowledge of it. You write “gender and sex” as if they are different terms. They are synonymous are defined by known biological markers, fuck whatever 5-minute old revised leftist source you link to that states otherwise.
Your own worldview states that gender and sex *should* be immediately obvious
WRONG!!!
so why aren't they?
DOES NOT MATTER BECAUSE THAT IS NOT MY WROLDVIEW.
It's almost as though your worldview is extremely flawed.
WHAT YOU WROTE IS NOT MY WORLDVIEW.
You view the world through a very narrow lens of "can I fuck a vagina on that being or can I not?"
WRONG!!!
You then claw for power and tell someone who has known for years that they are a male that they are instead a female...simply because that's how YOU see the world.
It is not “clawing for power” to tell someone lacking the required Y chromosome that they are not male but instead a female. I would not tell them that because it is how I see the world, I would tell them that because that is what objective biological facts tell me. Lastly, the person could not have “known for years” that they were male because they would have had to know they lacked a penis and testicles at the very least and that men do not menstruate or have a womb.
It's a very selfish, chidlish, and egotistical way to view others, which is why you're painted as the asshole that you are for holding it.
Viewing other through the lens of objective reality is not selfish, childish or egotistical. Thank you for providing an example what I said when I mentioned how the left attempts to shame anyone who debunks their bullshit. You desperately wish to “paint me as the asshole” because it is easier to do that than to admit you have been duped into the mental disorder of Marxist thinking. It’s the same thinking that leads to the “healthy at any weight” scam that asserts there are not health problems with being morbidly obese and that to utter anything to the contrary is a “very selfish, childish and egotistical way to view others”. Better paint those people as assholes to shut them up.
But we've moved on from that point. Your opinion on someone's gender is fairly irrelevant. If you were to tell Caitlyn Jenner your opinion on her gender I'm sure she could give a shit.
Again, with the irrelevant bullshit. You are right, my opinion doesn’t effect reality, it is simply a reflection of it. Bruce Jenner may very well not give a shit what I say. I never claimed he would. Bruce Jenner not giving a shit doesn’t change the fact that he is a MOTHERFUCKER MAN and always will be until the day he dies.
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(Long Spike)
Wait, I thought only black people were on welfare.
(Old Spike)
(Old Spike)
Well, according to leftism she is black. So I guess from a certain point of view, you're not wrong.
(Old Spike)
I always thought under achievers were on welfare. Oh wait...
(Old Spike)
Why are two people frequently placed front and center as the leaders of the African American suffrage movement both white people who are pretending to be black people? There's also that Shaun King guy.
(Long Spike)
Because the "liberal media" isn't always liberal. The media focuses on what sells, and focusing on a buffoon like Dolezal puts those eyes on the screen.
(Old Spike)
Well then, as I always say, fuck the MSM for their failures.
(Old Spike)
"buffoon like Dolezal"
A white woman fraudulently represents herself as a black woman and she is a baffoon.
A man/woman fraudulently represents themselves as a woman/man and they are brave.
Leftist logic.
(Long Spike)
She's a buffoon for parading herself as a black person while working with the NAACP. Whatever strawman figure you're comparing her to I guess can be whoever you wish. Do you have a name for your strawman figure or should we just say you're referring to Jane/John Doe?
(Old Spike)
A straw-man you say? I seem to remember a long post with multiple photos of people suffering from gender confusion more or less telling me I was a shit person for not engaging in their fantasy. I'm sorry, perhaps you have changed your view since last we discussed the issue. Please, bring me up to speed.
Is Bruce Jenner "brave" for being an open fraud and presenting himself as a woman to the public?
(Long Spike)
I remember that post as well...I intentionally linked images of a *mixture* of women that had vaginas and looked like women, transgendered women, and transgendered men and then I asked you to identify their sex. You balked completely and it showed the foolishness in which you view the world through an ON/OFF lens.
Your stupid fucking question above is loaded as fuck: is she "brave"? Are YOU stating she's brave? Who is stating that Jenner is brave and should we uphold their opinion as something to which we adhere? What I was addressing above is that you *SPECIFICALLY* named Dolezal as one party and then you compared to her an amorphous, unknown entity that apparently symbolizes all transgender people. If you want to compare Jenner against Dolezal, then let's do it. Dolezal is specifically Caucasian but presented herself as "black" and stated that she was black. Jenner *was* specifically a man (and I bet even you would concede that point) and now presents himself as a woman...which *is* the case.
(Old Spike)
I remember that post as well...I intentionally linked images of a *mixture* of women that had vaginas and looked like women, transgendered women, and transgendered men and then I asked you to identify their sex. You balked completely and it showed the foolishness in which you view the world through an ON/OFF lens.
Indeed I did balk, as that is what one does when confronted with completely pointless statements like yours. Your were attempting to convince me that if a woman has every appearance of a man, that somehow that makes the woman a man.
Your attempt to separate gender and sex is foolish. BTW, we are not talking about the world, we are talking about gender and I hate to break it to you but if you don't understand how sex chromosomes work then you are the fool. That is some shit you were suppose to learn in high school. Allow me to explain it again, cutting off your tits, getting jacked on testosterone and having your clit cut up to make a fake penis and balls does not make a woman a man. If you think it does you are a fucking fool.
My lense is that of facts. Biology tells us that gender is an ON/OFF, or should I say X/Y (disregarding mutations), reality. A person either has a Y chromosome or they don't. If they don't then no amount of slicing and dicing and drugs is going to make a shits worth of difference other than to perhaps help that person cope with their mental illness.
Your stupid fucking question above is loaded as fuck: is she "brave"? Are YOU stating she's brave?
I'm not stating it, the entire leftist establishment media said she was "brave" so I was just seeing if you agreed. I think Bruce Jenner is afflicted with a mental illness in need of treatment. The left would rather force everyone under threat of public shaming to play along with his fantasy.
Who is stating that Jenner is brave and should we uphold their opinion as something to which we adhere?
They are -> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jul/15/caitlyn-jenner-receives-espy-award-and-says-transgender-people-deserve-respect
And why can't you just answer the question instead of repeating it back to me. Fuck no I don't uphold their opinion, but you are of their leftist world view so I was curious how far down the rabbit hole you've gone.
What I was addressing above is that you *SPECIFICALLY* named Dolezal as one party and then you compared to her an amorphous, unknown entity that apparently symbolizes all transgender people.
Like that fucking matters. Insert what ever gender confused person you would like into my post and the point stands. That point being that left will dog pile anyone who dares say there is something wrong with gender confused individuals, but let a woman come along who is racially confused and fuck her, she's just a bafoon.
If you want to compare Jenner against Dolezal, then let's do it. Dolezal is specifically Caucasian but presented herself as "black" and stated that she was black. Jenner *was* specifically a man (and I bet even you would concede that point) and now presents himself as a woman...which *is* the case.
Dolezal is specifically Caucasian but presented herself as "black" and stated that she was black.
That is correct.
Jenner *was* specifically a man (and I bet even you would concede that point) and now presents himself as a woman...which *is* the case.
Jenner STILL IS specifically a MAN. He now fraudulently PRESENTS HIMSELF as a woman, which is not the case.
(Long Spike)
The only reason you're so adamantly sure about Caitlyn Jenner is because the knowledge that he "was once a man" has been revealed to you. The reason I showed you those myriad of images showcases that your own worldview fails miserably when it comes to how you yourself wish to view it...YOU cannot even abid by your own rules. According to you, if someone is a man then they're a man no matter what and you should be able to instantly and easily be able to tell, right? Because it's just so obvious to you, right? So why did you balk at my "is this a man or woman" test? Shouldn't you have been able to know because it's simply so obvious?
Or...and I know this is going to challenge you on a fundamental level...do you think that perhaps gender and sex are not immediately apparent? Your own worldview states that gender and sex *should* be immediately obvious; so why aren't they? It's almost as though your worldview is extremely flawed. You view the world through a very narrow lens of "can I fuck a vagina on that being or can I not?" You then claw for power and tell someone who has known for years that they are a male that they are instead a female...simply because that's how YOU see the world. It's a very selfish, chidlish, and egotistical way to view others, which is why you're painted as the asshole that you are for holding it.
But we've moved on from that point. Your opinion on someone's gender is fairly irrelevant. If you were to tell Caitlyn Jenner your opinion on her gender I'm sure she could give a shit.
(Old Spike)
You still don't get. Fuck me Mr. Fudd, why are you so willfully dense and in denial of reality. I swear, arguing with you is like arguing with a Christian about their irrational beliefs.
It doesn't matter if I know Bruce Jenner is a man. The makeup of Bruce Jenner's DNA is MALE regardless of mine or your awareness of that fact. I suspect you being willfully ignorant to avoid dealing with the inevitable cognitive dissonance.
What if I told you that “The only reason you’re calling Rachel a bafoon is because the knowledge that she ‘was once white’ has been revealed to you.” I would literally sound like a fucking idiot. Why? Because it does not matter if people believe she is black, the reality is that she is a white woman.
Likewise, your claim that Bruce Jenner “was once a man” is a fucking moronic statement as it is based on the ludicrous assertion that a man can choose to be something else. I am a human, that is what my DNA says. I can no more choose to be a horse than Bruce can choose to be a woman or Rachel can choose to be black.
My worldview is based on objective reality. Your world view is seemingly based on subjective assertions based on wishful thinking with the enforcement by means of hate speech laws.
Your “myriad of images” prove nothing and the post was a complete and utter waste of your time.
WRONG AGAIN!!
The fact that they are a man HAS FUCK ALL to do with my ability to “instantly and easily be able to tell”. A man is a man because of his biology. Suppose a person is afflicted with some other genetic disorder, it doesn’t matter if I can “instantly and easily” tell they have it. It exists regardless of my knowledge of it. It does not matter how well a gender confused individual disguises their actual biological gender, they are the gender their DNA says they are.
Simple, it was a completely pointless test. My inability to see through their cosmetic alterations does not matter in the least.
I never claimed they were immediately apparent. Again, you keep going down the dead-end road about what I may or may not know. Reality exists regardless of my knowledge of it. You write “gender and sex” as if they are different terms. They are synonymous are defined by known biological markers, fuck whatever 5-minute old revised leftist source you link to that states otherwise.
WRONG!!!
DOES NOT MATTER BECAUSE THAT IS NOT MY WROLDVIEW.
WHAT YOU WROTE IS NOT MY WORLDVIEW.
WRONG!!!
It is not “clawing for power” to tell someone lacking the required Y chromosome that they are not male but instead a female. I would not tell them that because it is how I see the world, I would tell them that because that is what objective biological facts tell me. Lastly, the person could not have “known for years” that they were male because they would have had to know they lacked a penis and testicles at the very least and that men do not menstruate or have a womb.
Viewing other through the lens of objective reality is not selfish, childish or egotistical. Thank you for providing an example what I said when I mentioned how the left attempts to shame anyone who debunks their bullshit. You desperately wish to “paint me as the asshole” because it is easier to do that than to admit you have been duped into the mental disorder of Marxist thinking. It’s the same thinking that leads to the “healthy at any weight” scam that asserts there are not health problems with being morbidly obese and that to utter anything to the contrary is a “very selfish, childish and egotistical way to view others”. Better paint those people as assholes to shut them up.
Again, with the irrelevant bullshit. You are right, my opinion doesn’t effect reality, it is simply a reflection of it. Bruce Jenner may very well not give a shit what I say. I never claimed he would. Bruce Jenner not giving a shit doesn’t change the fact that he is a MOTHERFUCKER MAN and always will be until the day he dies.