Isn't that guy free? He's not in prison is he? Looks like he was treated pretty well.
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jdt73 (Short Spike)
Is that why he turned out to be a lying sack of shit?
Oh wait, that's how he started.
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backdraft (Site Moderator)
And you never heard him whining about the media.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
That's because the media didn't drag him through the baseless bullshit for 4-8 years. The fact that 99% of these clips are from Fox alone is quite telling.
In fact some media outlets were set to "auto fellate" for everything he said and did.
He was a middle of the road President, Just like Biden will be.
The Senate will cripple him, and the mid terms will probably sway further Red.
Since banning guns won't work. He's talking about taxing them.
What a GREAT IDEA! *Bob, bob* Now only the RICH can have guns. You know. The people that don't need them to protect their families from burglaries, gang home invasions and rapists. It fixed all those problems with the pesky lower class minorities getting the protection they need.
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
what sources would you like to see? fox news accounts for the majority of views. they get somewhere between 2.5 and 4 million people watching every day.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
That's not the question lol.
Trump has been bombarded from every possible corperate outlet over the most rediculous shit the whole way through.
Obama had a number of outlets and small guys for media support.
The level of propoganda of Obama vs Trump is not even remotely comparable by sheer volume.
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
sure bud
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backdraft (Site Moderator)
Well what can you say. A lot of people hate him.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Well yeah.
Disruptors are not comfortable to deal with. But they are neccessary in small doses.
If every president sits on their ass like good boys and rides out their term people say they are great. Yet they don't get much done.
Change requires discomfort and aggravation.
A lot of people can't handle that. And fear mongering news networks screaming about muh Russia and two scoops don't help with that either.
When I see someone loved by all, I don't trust them unless they have truely legendary character.
When I see someone outcast and causing a stir. I see someone that's effective at changing their environment.
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backdraft (Site Moderator)
Disruptor?
I'm not even talking about his politics, just his general sleazy demeanor and acting like a man child is enough to make a lot of people hate him. He's been rich most of his life and never really had to struggle, so that explains a lot of his behavior.
But yeah I understand why a lot of people like him. He acts tough. Emphasis on "acts". He has a straightforward, redneck kinda way of powering through. Unfortunately, there are a lot of things on the world stage that might require some subtlety, diplomacy, and intelligence which he totally lacks. Might work in business to a fair extent, but there's a lot more to being the president.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
I like him because he didn't start any wars, he stopped NK from threatening the free world with ICBM's.
Had a stable economy. Great tax packages for entrepeneurs and small business.
Expanded Veteran care.
Got the wall project started.
Left control of the pandemic to the states rather than over reaching with federal juristiction.
He's tossing out warhawks on his way out.
He exposed how misleading and systemicly corrupt journalism is.
He exposed that American elections are not above corruption which gives us projects to work in the future.
He proved impeachment really doesn't matter.
Attempted healthcare early in his term.
Signed Nasa in federal spending law. Not much, but he got SOMETHING on paper for them in the U.S. budget
He did a lot with everyone fighting him all the way, this is just the stuff off the top of head.
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Raining Blood (Long Spike)
what kind of healthcare did he try to pass?
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Free national healthcare. It's why he wiped Obama care.
The problem was that The GOP couldn't get their shit together and make a decision on what kind of coverage or budget. So not enough votes garned from GOP, and the Dems were pissed that he was getting to healthcare before them so they stonewalled their side.
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(Old Spike)
Isn't that guy free? He's not in prison is he? Looks like he was treated pretty well.
(Short Spike)
Is that why he turned out to be a lying sack of shit?
Oh wait, that's how he started.
(Site Moderator)
And you never heard him whining about the media.
(Old Spike)
That's because the media didn't drag him through the baseless bullshit for 4-8 years. The fact that 99% of these clips are from Fox alone is quite telling.
In fact some media outlets were set to "auto fellate" for everything he said and did.
He was a middle of the road President, Just like Biden will be.
The Senate will cripple him, and the mid terms will probably sway further Red.
Since banning guns won't work. He's talking about taxing them.
What a GREAT IDEA! *Bob, bob* Now only the RICH can have guns. You know. The people that don't need them to protect their families from burglaries, gang home invasions and rapists. It fixed all those problems with the pesky lower class minorities getting the protection they need.
(Old Spike)
what sources would you like to see? fox news accounts for the majority of views. they get somewhere between 2.5 and 4 million people watching every day.
(Old Spike)
That's not the question lol.
Trump has been bombarded from every possible corperate outlet over the most rediculous shit the whole way through.
Obama had a number of outlets and small guys for media support.
The level of propoganda of Obama vs Trump is not even remotely comparable by sheer volume.
(Old Spike)
sure bud
(Site Moderator)
Well what can you say. A lot of people hate him.
(Old Spike)
Well yeah.
Disruptors are not comfortable to deal with. But they are neccessary in small doses.
If every president sits on their ass like good boys and rides out their term people say they are great. Yet they don't get much done.
Change requires discomfort and aggravation.
A lot of people can't handle that. And fear mongering news networks screaming about muh Russia and two scoops don't help with that either.
When I see someone loved by all, I don't trust them unless they have truely legendary character.
When I see someone outcast and causing a stir. I see someone that's effective at changing their environment.
(Site Moderator)
Disruptor?
I'm not even talking about his politics, just his general sleazy demeanor and acting like a man child is enough to make a lot of people hate him. He's been rich most of his life and never really had to struggle, so that explains a lot of his behavior.
But yeah I understand why a lot of people like him. He acts tough. Emphasis on "acts". He has a straightforward, redneck kinda way of powering through. Unfortunately, there are a lot of things on the world stage that might require some subtlety, diplomacy, and intelligence which he totally lacks. Might work in business to a fair extent, but there's a lot more to being the president.
(Old Spike)
I like him because he didn't start any wars, he stopped NK from threatening the free world with ICBM's.
Had a stable economy. Great tax packages for entrepeneurs and small business.
Expanded Veteran care.
Got the wall project started.
Left control of the pandemic to the states rather than over reaching with federal juristiction.
He's tossing out warhawks on his way out.
He exposed how misleading and systemicly corrupt journalism is.
He exposed that American elections are not above corruption which gives us projects to work in the future.
He proved impeachment really doesn't matter.
Attempted healthcare early in his term.
Signed Nasa in federal spending law. Not much, but he got SOMETHING on paper for them in the U.S. budget
He did a lot with everyone fighting him all the way, this is just the stuff off the top of head.
(Long Spike)
what kind of healthcare did he try to pass?
(Old Spike)
Free national healthcare. It's why he wiped Obama care.
The problem was that The GOP couldn't get their shit together and make a decision on what kind of coverage or budget. So not enough votes garned from GOP, and the Dems were pissed that he was getting to healthcare before them so they stonewalled their side.