All we can do is defend our communities when they come. And they will.
Before that, Liberals and Conservatives need to come together, stay vigilant about holding your government to account. Watch their policies escalate, and understand that when they purge the patriots, they will come for Christians, Bhuddists, Catholics, Muslims, Homosexuals, transgenders, and the liberal too. Anyone who does not whole heartedly support their regime. This will be done in stages.
This Vaccination is not here to save you. It's here to sterilize you, or kill you. Soon they will cripple your life if you don't take it. After that, they may just make you take it out right.
We are at the "Crises" stage of a fascist/communist takeover. From here it descends to either civil war, or occupation.
There is still a small amount of time to turn back the tide. But time is short.
There are two avenues to combating this. Waking people up to the Woke Liberal agenda. And finding faith in God.
Without using liberalism, and without exterminating faith. They cannot succeed.
Family 1st
Community 2nd.
State Last.
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n0val33t (Old Spike)
Are you trolling or drunk? I say some dumb shit when I'm on the sauce, which happens from time to time. This sounds like something out of Anders Bering Brevik's manifesto. If your serious, .... your brain is up shit creek without a paddle from what I can tell. And this: " they will come for Christians, Bhuddists, Catholics, Muslims, Homosexuals, transgenders, and the liberal too. Anyone who does not whole heartedly support their regime* .... WHAT?
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Turn on CNN, or MSNBC.
Listen to Democrat REPRESENTATIVES. AOC being one of them. They are calling for re educations camps, and reprogramming anyone that does not support their ideas.
Even Mitch McConnel (Slimebag) is starting to show signs of panic.
This isn't going in a good direction, and it's gaining a lot of support. Radical anything isn't good. Look how fast the narrative is progressing.
Merkel is throwing anti maskers in camps right now in Germany. It's getting out of hand.
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Who, what and where? Where do you get this..... It would be the front page on every news outlet on the planet. Whatever happens in the US has a tremendous effect on allied countries. This is why we keep such a fucking.. close eye to US politics.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Here we go. Variety of people calling for this.
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
Is this a parody?
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
See for yourself
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n0val33t (Old Spike)
Ok.... what's your take on this particular clip? And what did you mean by "see for your self" Have a feeling I'm being trolled
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Sorry about that, I didn't watch it. I see what you mean. Boy do I have egg on my face. Last thing I want is a cry wolf situation on something this huge.
However, In Germany all signs are pointing to this as Merkel is planning on detaining covid dissidents in "refugee" camps.
I'll update you when I find something on the states. Sorry again.
DO check this one out though. This is a very good watch, and something to keep your eyes peeled for as the narritive developes.
dude seriously - go and seek some mental help. the road you are heading down ... is really scary
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Afraid I'm going to make some bombs or something? Lol, not my thing.
I use my words, not my fists. If I'm not violent, and I deter others from violence. What does it matter what I believe?
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trooper_trent (Old Spike)
Beliefs inform actions. Actions affect others. That's why it matters what you believe. Please believe me when I say this is coming from nothing but love. I have a friend who has been my best friend for about 19 years now. We were on the same page with everything (except religion. He is. I'm not). Super smart guy, critical thinker, you name it. Then he lost his 6 month old son to a congenital heart deffect (they couldn't get pregnant naturally so they did IVF twice before it worked). They spent every bit of their savings to have him and he died after 6 months of surgery after surgery. While this would obviously change anyone, he slowly went down a political rabbit hole based solely on the single issue of abortion. Even though it's not a black and white issue, and even though the stats prove that abortion rates are lower under democratic leadership simply because of things like access to birth control, contreceptives, education, etc. He sees it as purely polarized. If you want to keep innocent babies from dying, you're a republican. Otherwise, you're an evil child murdering pedophile.
Over the past couple of years I've seen him diving deeper and deeper into fringe right media like krowder, OANN, Newsmax, etc. and every time he spouts off about what the evil dems are doing he has nothing to show except poorly written articles or short videos that show zero context. At first I asked him about them, showing him the full video that disproves what he was told, or showing him court transcripts that say the opposite of what the lawyers were saying on TV and rather than pay any attention to any actual evidence, simply got angrier and angrier. I have since stopped responding to him when it's political because it always devolves into a rage storm with him. He's in permanent victim mode, is convinced the world is ending, and thinks his best friend is a baby murderer. It breaks my heart every time I talk to him. He's losing his friends and surrounding himself with online anonymous forum users in an echo chamber of vitriol and hate. It's nothing but Whataboutism with him and I'm losing my friend. It's to the point where I feel like I need to make a decision to try one last time to slap some sense into him at the risk of losing him forever because he has become so toxic that it's now affecting me physically.
I only tell you this because I see a lot of the exact same language and fear in your posts. It reminds me a lot of the way he behaves. All I would ask is that you step back for a bit and ask yourself how you physically feel. How do you feel about yourself? How do you feel your behavior has changed over the past few years? Have you always felt this way or is this relatively new? if new, is it for the better? are you becoming happier? a better person?
If the answer is yes to all of this, then by all means keep going down the road you're on.
But if you think I might have even the slightest valid point in all my rambling, I would suggest you try unplugging from the news and social media for a few weeks just as an experiment and see if your feelings and behaviors change.
We are the first generation since the existence of life on this planet to all of a sudden have instant access to all the world's activity and problems and it's too much. We're not equipped to deal with the overload of this much information.
Take it for what it's worth. Down vote me and call me a liberal pussy if you want. Just know that I spent the time to write all of this out specifically for you, because I see some damaging behavior that I see in my best friend and I care about you enough to say something about it.
Peace.
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I won't downvote you, or call you a pussy, I don't believe liberals are evil. Just the opposite. I believe that they are the best of us, and a hope for the future of humanity.
The patriots believe you are the core of what is our duty to protect, not harm. I have always been a patriot. Since I was a child. I looked up to the deeds of people like Washington, Adams, and Jackson.
The history books used to tell us the other side of them. Things that contradict what the education system says about them now. About how Jackson gave up his own horse so the wounded would not be left behind, how at 12 years old he stood up for himself and other prisoners when captured by the british, how he pleaded with the natives to assimilate into American culture, not exterminate them. How racists and british loyalists in government pushed for the trail of tears, and he stayed his hand on it. About how the the first re election was stolen from him by faster witted sophists that represented the interests of the rich and powerful. And once he lost, Martin Van Buren immeadiately enacted that act, and he was furious with them.
I come from a family of united states marines, the least compromising to the new agenda. They don't bend over backwards to accomodate the "needs" of it's members, the members conform to the marines. My uncle fought in Vietnam and cambodia, he saw first hand what communism was doing to the people. After he finished his tour, he started an excavation company, and hired workers of all groups and ethnicity, paid them all well based on their merits and work ethic. He paid them all before he paid himself even.
The education system was tampered with by the liberal agenda, it demonized heroes slowly, discouraged being a an individual, with a goal of creating a hive mind to serve the new world order. I can now see the news is treating individualists as the Kulak. Slowly expanding across types of people. At first the villains were the kkk and neo nazis. And they are the villains.
I fight them on alt tech right now, because I see them taking advantage of this and trying to recruit, it's disgusting and terrifying. Trump supporters at large don't support these people, and that capital assault was a flase flag.
Ask yourself this, if that day was our due process to challenge the election and find closure, why we impede that process? Also, CNN is telling you this assault happened after the speech, it's not true. The assault started before the speech was done. The walk from the podium to the capital is about a mile and a half. There is a time window.
I'm trying my best to show everyone that the news was corrupted, the eucation system was corrupted, the judiciary, politics, all of it.
https://www.spikednation.com/videos/russian-propoganda-specialist-defector-explains-what-happened This man here, helped spread communist propoganda in the 50's in 60's, he supported the regime directly as a journalist. He defected and warned us it was already here. He outlines the process of how this works. I urge everyone to listen to him.
There is nothing wrong with being liberal, as I see it as being benevolent and desiring fair treatment for all. That is what the idea of America was supposed to be about. I just hope that it doesn't make people hate their own who are not liberal, and that they won't choose one group of people over their own right here.
It's easy for me to resort to my differences, and make fun of people and name call. But I realized that doesn't help us understand each other, far from it. Just don't let the news tell you that society is under assault by racists and white supremacists. It's not, they are a minority, and they attach temselves to patriot movements like parasites, and the news loves that.
To them it makes for a sensational story that gets them ratings. I see the news is a big cause of this division. That's why I don't trust most of it.
The news made us support wars, the news made everyone angry with Trump.
Trump is trying to stop communism from consuming our nation. Patriotism and faith are the only way to stop it. Because patriotism and faith allow us to believe in something greater than ourselves. And communism cannot co exist with that.
Also, the difference between liberal people, and liberal agenda, is liberal people are kind and well meaning people. The liberal agenda is the strategy of the elite to use liberals to divide people, destroy patriotism, and slowly make people give ground to the communist regime through subversion, incrementalism, and compromise.
People cannot be subverted if they don't see the threat, and it happens more thouroughly when people embrace it.
We believe many of the same things already, but conservatives progress slowly and carefully, and we wear "politcal mountain shoes" to stop slippery slopes.
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
faith in god...
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Faith in God is neccesary to stop communism. and by that I don't mean supporting establishments, churches, or fraudulent televangelists.
True christianity is following the teachings of Christ. The church are the followers, not the building. Communism destroys religion first, people that read bibles in communist countries are imprisoned. Because they will not bow to communism.
One of the fundamental differences between Christianity and other religions like catholosism and islam. Is that if you are persecuted for your faith, those religions tell you it's ok to renounce your faith to save yourself.
Christians must endure. Christ said, if you deny me I will deny you. He also promised he would never put you through more than you can bear.
There are many stories of martyrys that were executed by the catholic church. They were terrified they would be forced to renounce their faith, but God took away their pain, so they would not be forced to do so.
Since I have turned back to Christ. Yes I have, and I am not ashamed. I have been at peace for the first time in my life.
I am comitted to non violence, even in self defence. I'm not afraid of what's coming for me. I am afraid of what the new world order will do to everyone else.
I'm not here to preach, I don't have the authority to do that. Especially because for many years here I have been a terrible example. I can only do what I can from this point forward to try and be a better example.
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
"Faith in God is neccesary to stop communism."
So you literally are saying anyone that is not a "believer" is antifa or at least that belief in a fictional character is necessary to save the world from it? Do you realise your extremist muslim brethren think the same?
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
It's a several pronged approach. Any 1 of the following is an enemy of communism.
Family 1st
Community 1st.
Faith 1st
Patriotism 1st.
If any or all of those things come before the state, then your mind is innoculated against it. Those are the target groups of communism/fascism marked for destruction. Communism/fascism will not tolerate these things.
We can see how the Muslims, Falune gong, and tibetan bhuddists and Christians are treated in China and North Korea as proof today.
That's what I mean. My personal belief is in Jesus Christ. I believe Islam is a false doctrine. I am not intolerant of other faiths, but I am innoculated against conversion to other faiths. That is my personal view.
It's funny, cause I was thinking of Ninjizz today. I understand what he meant about the dangers of embracing athiesism on societal or mandated scale. Even though we do not share the same faith, I understand it's importance.
A couple of reasons I disagree personally with Islam on a faith level. 1. It permits you to renounce your faith to authorities to escape punishment. 2. It promotes violence on a fundamentalist level. 3. It claims to correct the Torah and the bible.
The old testament permitted violence in certain circumstances. But these weren't decisions you make on your own, these were specific time periods where God commanded it. The exception being Rape, or if your adult son became wicked. He was to be put to death to quell the spread of his influence through out the tribe.
The teachings of Christ do not permit violence, In the new testament it also warns us to be wary of false prophets (Looking at you Copeland) It claims they will suffer the worst for their deeds. The bible also forbids adding to the scriptures.
So how do we deal with translations? Good question. The earliest rendition I know of is the King James Bible. It's also a good idea to pair it with a concordance, which provides hebrew, greek, and aramiac translations. The original languages it was written in.
The NIV bible is updated from Ye old English into modernized english. The issue I have with it is some meanings are changed as a result, so I trust it less.
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daftcunt (Old Spike)
"It's a several pronged approach. Any 1 of the following is an enemy of communism.
Family 1st
Community 1st.
Faith 1st
Patriotism 1st."
Now which part of communism do you not get?
The others are constructs that don't negate communism. Kim Yong Un sees himself as a patriot.
Again "Faith 1st" is what your muslim brethren preach. There is little difference between christianity and islam if you take what their holy books say literally, which you must, otherwise you're a hypocrite.
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theblackswordsman (Old Spike)
Communism doesn't leave room for charity as most barely make enough to eat. It leaves no room for freedom of assembly, or children's programs, or fund raisers for good causes, free discussion of ideas and true fellowship.
The word communism to me just seems like an ironic sophism, much like their arguements for a promised quality of life and a utopia.
I take the bible literally, as that is God's command. The things I don't understand or can't explain requires faith and thoughtful study.
Yes Islam is similar, but it is not quite the same. They do not recognize Jesus as God's son in the flesh. The recognize him as merely a prophet. This is damning according to the bible. It is only through the Sacrifice of Jesus that I am saved. It also requires that I admit I am sinner, and requires that I ask Jesus to be lord of my life, To ask forgiveness for my transgressions and to strive to follow him.
Even as I am imperfect, even as I sin every day. It is impossible not to sin everyday. I must try my best to be aware of sin, do my best to turn from it, and to maintain that relationship of prayer.
It's a tough life to follow, but I have felt immense internal change, and I desire less to be as my old self. It is only through these things that I have realized fighting with everyone was wrong, hurtful and wicked, and why I have humbled myself before you and apologized for what I know I have done and said was wrong.
A few days ago I would have been too proud. and it will always be something I must watch.
One thing I have realized about the vast majority of sin, is that is wicked because it causes problems between us, discord, and fights. I don't view it as so much a list of rules, but guidance as to how best abide with others.
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
you know that catholicism is a denomination of christianity, all catholics are christian but not all christians are catholics. then you have a another dozen or so denominations including the polygamist pedophiles latter day saints. so when you say you found jesus. which one? and you got alot of bibles to pick from. is it a white jesus born in the middle east from a virgin in a bible that teachs you to be anti gay?
so when exactly did you find jesus again? was it the day after the inauguration? to me. i see that as a defence mechanism, trying to avoid humility, alot of politians, trump campaign staff, trump administration, people on twitter are doing the same, they went from talking shit to quoting bible verses, praying to god to heal the country and calling for unity.
your stance that faith in god is needed to stop communism is a joke. communism is an idea. ensuring that you don't have to pay people a livable wage gives people that idea.
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The catholic church is a false doctrine, among all the others you mentioned.
It was devised by rome to maintain political power once they realized that they couldn't keep killing christians. It was fused with the greek religion and of course monetized and politiczed. The saints are just a redressing of the greek gods. The bible is clear about not worshipping saints or deities, or even Mary. God despises meaningless ceremony.
I believe in following the teachings directly. and having a personal relationship with Christ through prayer and reading the scriptures.
There is a reason many of us are turning to God, because we believe our nation turning away from God is what is delivering us to enslavement. This happened to the Israelites all through out history. They would turn from God, and civil discourse would break out, and they would be given over to tyrants. It was only when they turned back to God that they would pull through.
There are tons of stories about how their enemies would make blunders, their plans would fall apart, the weather would turn against them, armies would meet in areas of benefit to the Israelites.
No one can deny that Jews are an oppressed people. Even now in Israel itself, they are ruled by tyrants that insist on the oppression of their neighbors. Some even believe the Jewish elite are not actual Jews, just pretenders.
Let me ask you this, what is your definition of humility in the current matters? Submission? Forsaking American values? Giving ourselves over to whichever regime sees fit to dominate us?
At what point do we properly atone? At what point are the so called oppressed satiated? Clearly there must be a goal.
Without a goal it is just abuse. Also, if the other side has won the presidency, the house, and the senate. Why arn't they happy?
Right now, Trump supporters are not the ones burning down cities. We have retreated to our communities and families, we have removed our hand, and we allow everything to take it's course. You can't blame us for the violence happening as we speak.
And communism is an idea that has killed 10's of millions. It has killed even more than wicked doctrine of fascism.
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sal9000 (Old Spike)
you didn't answer any of my questions. not which denomination, not which bible or which jesus.
most of what you said is trivial nonsense.
as for what i mean by humility. like being humble. for months people have been making or pushing claims others have been calling good reason, nonsense. after everything is over and nothing that they've said has come to fruition. instead of accepting the comeuppance, these people start quoting bible verses and preaching god like its a harry potter spell that gives protection.
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I did answer That question, in a post above. I read the king James bible.
I am non denominational. The closest I suppose would be baptist. Not to be confused with pentacostle, or southern baptist.
What is our comeuppance supposed to be? How can I apologize for something I am not sorry for?
What am I supposed to be sorry for? For being American? for being a Patriot? For supporting Trump? For challenging the inflammatory news?
I am not sorry for any of those things, and I will not debase you or myself with false apologies.
Nowhere in the king James bible does it claim Jesus is white, and yes homosexuality is a sin. I won't tell others how to live their lives, and I will not be intolerant of those that I share the Earth with, but I will never champion it's cause, and I will never partake in it. I won't judge people for it, treat them poorly, or look down upon them in my heart either.
If you are curious, what is the list of sins. Here they are as outlined in the King James bible.
https://believersportal.com/list-sins-bible/
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nah, i got everything i need to know about your version of the spaghetti monster in the sky
but i was wondering when you asked me a week ago if i wanted a civil war or if i wanted to go back to how things were when we were kids. when we kids. you could drive drunk, beat your wife and be as racist as you wanted to without any repurcusions. you could pour whatever chemicals you wanted down the drain or into a river/lake knowing people drink from it. didnt matter if it causes cancer, we also didnt have the internet. but what gets me is why is it civil war or we go back to how things were?
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Real crime is done with your hands, not your tongue.
In the free world crime is punished once it is committed and not a moment before.
Real fear based reasoning is trying to prevent crime rather than punishing it once it happens.
The more involved government makes itself in people's lives the more miserable and truely oppressed society becomes.
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none of those really explain why its one or the other but i'll say this. bin laden didn't fly any planes and time progresses one way. you either move with it or you get left behind
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You'll be left behind no matter what you do. You just won't truely understand until it's too late.
And I will explain why. We are at the crises stage of a communist/fascist take over.
A manufactured crises that never needed to happen. Very contrary to Marx theory. It was forced, on purpose, by they that own the world.
Only two outcomes are possible. Civil war, or occupation.
The window of redemption is rapidly closing.
Everyone will make a choice. Freedom, or Life. There is no middle ground. TRUE socialism, is just a honey pot. A fantasy of those that are lazy and those that worship science and technology as their god.
In the end justice will be done, as those that sold themselves to hedonism and lazieness will get the world they deserve.
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you're an idiot. you're one of those people i've spoken to that fear socialism but have no reason for it and can't explain how it would even get to that point. talking shit about socialism but using our 60 year old socialized health care. like, i have eggs in the fridge, if i'm not carefull i could end up with a cake
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I don't use healthcare. Or social programs. I told you the reason socialism isn't good. It's a lie to gain political power.
The only reason I take the stimulus, is because I was STRIPPED of my right to work in the first place. That is not a real choice.
Government is not your friend. It doesn't love you, it doesn't care about you, it doesn't exist to protect you.
Government only grows. The more it grows, the more it must control.
Did we become more free in the last 100 hundreds years as individuals? Or less free as individuals?
Also, if government was benevolent, then they are going to pay every penny to those business owners out of business. All the money they lost, and equal to the amount of profit they made in 2019. But no they won't. Not one dime beyond the SCRAPS they offered in relief. The lockdowns were not to protect us lol. They were implemented to destroy businesses and FORCE capitalism to fail. Without the help government capitalism would be alive and well.
What is the value of just 2000 deaths from a virus safer than the flu? over 200 billion dollars apparently.
I don't really know you, but from what I can guess is that you are either in denial, or so deeply programmed against liberty that you are irrecoverable, or that you are actively supporting authoritarianism thinking you will be rewarded.
In 4 years, you have gone from a quiet, and level headed, seemingly non partisan person, to nearly foaming at the mouth to anyone that opposes socialism. Especially me. You go out of your way to go after me. Why? Probably because I am firm in my beliefs, and now a spiritual person. I no longer fear death, or ruin. I think that disturbes you. Right Dan?
Either way, once you have served your purpose you will be thrown away like garbage. Guaranteed. Whether it's the vaxx that will kill you, or the regime in a few years once it's power is absolute.
I don't wish any of that upon you, but I know your future. Just as well as I know mine.
The difference between you and I, is I will die free.
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you said a month ago you had the orange and white health card. canada/ontario didnt hand those out to tourists. i doubt you opted out and you'd be at our hospitals saying you want to pay out of pocket.
as for the government caring for you. the police and the fire department. they have a tendency to show up when needed. like them or not but you also have the cia/csis, fbi/rcmp and any of the branches of the military, pretty sure people signed up to protect people. also, any country with socialized healthcare says different. those countries don't make you go bankrupt to stay alive.
government grows because population grows.
how would even compare a 100 years ago to now. instead of taking 3 months to get across america by horseback you can do it a 4 hours by plane, 2 days by car. you don't even have to leave. you can communicate with anyone in the world instantaneously. so yea, we've become more free as individuals in the last 100 years, especialy women. they only got the right to vote in the 100 years.
well, canada's giving out $60k partially forgivable interest free loans. then you can also sign up for ei and get 2k month. our government is giving what you need to survive, its not giving you money for a vacation. if you can't make your mortgage, banks will deffer the payment. can't pay you're rent, pretty sure you can call someone and get that solved, judges aren't willing to evict people and electric companies can't turn off the juice because the government says so.
i still can't believe its still an arguement. you have the option to stop another flu from taking hold and how ever many variantions that spin off from that from being an additional seasonal flu's. you want to talk money? how much do you think your life is worth?
over the last 4 years i'd say i'm pretty much the same. you've just never had me looking over your shoulder.
i don't get calling me dan, i worked really hard to get him to kick me. seems pointless when i could have just kicked myself out whenever i wanted to instead of gambling on another mod choosing how long i'd be gone for.
you know what the difference between you and i? it's that you talk nonsense backed up by bullshit and when that doesn't work out the way you hoped you turn to the bible and let jesus take the wheel. you trade one false set of beliefs for another hoping it will change an unknown outcome
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Orange and whites arn't accepted anymore. (Which is unlawful) and the person in gov that cancelled it should be charged with fraud. It caused problems getting my test results when I thought I had this puny virus. So no. I have no healthcare.
The reason government is paying people is because if they didn't there would be an outright revolt. The problem with UBI or government money is if you don't do what they say, they can take your money, and with no other way to work, the alternatives are starvation, pan handling, and crime.
Police show up very much when they are not needed or welcome too. If there were less officers, or they weren't strapped with military hardware, they would indeed only be showing up when needed. Welfare caused more problems than it fixed, disability never paid enough to the REAL people that need help. We still don't have enough hospitals, Mental health is constantly taking a backseat in society, Yet members of government love buying 30'000 dollar paintings to hang in their chambers. Upgrading the police in milspec hardware, and over paying and overstaffing them in cities which have relatively low amounts of violent crime
60K is peanuts compared to hundreds of thousands to millions of lost dollars in small business. They aren't paying that back to them. And a loan is not the same as FULL compensation. Another means to get what few small businesses that are left in debt for an economy that is never going to fully re open again. No agenda there.
The world is reacting to this virus like it is a flesh eating cloud blanketing humanity, when it has killed less than the flue. And the vulnerable in nursing homes ARE STILL DYING.
Everything is reopening in the states because Trump is out of office, and various representaives are facing recall. Not because things are better and case numbers are down. They were just holding the nation hostage, because Trump was dismantling the establishment stranglehold on the people. When Biden said Trump did alot of damage, what he meant was he made everyone more free from their wickedness.
Looking over my shoulder? How self righteous of you.
You worked so hard. Poor you. Play the victim.
My "Nonesense" Comes from a time before education was almost completely state controlled.
One of the biggest atrocities the government can make is control education, because it decides what the truth is. Which is rarely the truth, or the whole truth. Instead they tell you the information that benefits their plan to control you by taking credit for fixing problems it did not fix, but definitely caused in the first place.
We gave women the right to vote. Thumbs up.
We have no right to bear arms, no right to self defence, no right to work, rediculous college and university requirements to do menial jobs that don't require this level of schooling. Again another ploy to get people in debt and pay the monster. Your diploma doesn't represent how knowledgable you are in your field. It represents how well you follow instructions. The school system exists these days to turn individuals into worker ants.
No freedom of assembly, and are told to stay in our homes or ELSE.
How much is my life worth? Not my freedom. "Those that would trade freedom for a moments security deserve neither nor shall have it" -Thomas Jefferson.
Your sophistry would be shocking if I didn't realize the liberal agenda is to remove you as far from reality as possible. The further you are from reality, the less power the truth has in your mind.
You play right into their hands. And when the government boot comes down on your neck THEN you will see.
I feel really bad for you, because you will feel more betrayed than I ever will.
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orange and white means your a citizen, doesn't matter if they don't accept it anymore, you probably swaped it for a new one by now, doesn't really matter cause you don't even need one, they wont refuse you at the hospital
if you tell people to stay home, you have to pay them. if they can't go to work they stay home and they get odsp. if they can't go to work and have to stay home they get welfare. thats a ubi and they'll never turn the tap off for them by threatning them to vote a certain way. at most they offer more if they vote a certain way,
small business' in canada make less than 500k, i see no reason to give them a million dollars for being closed for a month. pay your rent.
its an additional flu. it doesnt replace the existing one. its means more people will die every year because people didnt want to wear a mask
whatever educutional system you came from is a prime example of why it failed and had to be changed.
schools make sure you know the basics of your field and government controlled is probably better, you don't have for profit schools ripping kids off.
i'm not part of any agenda, if you were on the oppossite spectrum talking about how socialism is the only way and religion had to be killed and i'd be here rediculing the same way but with different points from the other side.
i don't feel bertrayed, i feel...
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No I didn't swap. I'm not paying to renew my card when my first one was given to me without an expirey date. Maybe they won't refuse me, I haven't had to go the hospital in 10 years so I'll find out when it happens.
They took my mother's card when she used it last, and because she didn't memorize the number she had to replace it.
They won't control you by telling you how to vote, they already purge the ballots here. Maxime Bernier is actually who won, and they punished him by purging his ballots, removing his 1 remaining seat, and calling him a fascist. Same thing they did to Trump.
For what? Wanting CONTROLLED immigration, veteran care, and gun rights for citizens. So evil right?
If a business doesn't make millions, then no it shouldn't be compensated millions. But these businesses should be paid what they made in 2019 to reflect an average of what they were likely to make in 2020 which would be the closest comparable metric without fully knowing what they would have made.. Instead they offered them more chances to get into debt, only paaid a fraction of worker wages, and destroyed their influx of business.
We shouldn't have to stay home anyway. It's a violation of our bill of rights, and I do not recall an announcement of the "Notwithstanding clause" Which is fascist anyway.
Yes, you do have to pay people if you do that, because they will burn your country down if they don't. Funny how mass starvation and poverty histoircally causes that.
The reason my education system failed is because foreign exchange students from communist countries came over here in the 50's and occupied our places of higher education and government and began subverting our values and education system. Causing a death spiral of our patriotic culture.
Even Some Big pharma companies Such as Merck have halted vaccine development because they claim it makes more sense to just get the virus and get it over with. People are dying all over the place from the Phizer and Moderna vaccines. Some within minutes of taking it.
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"Trump is trying to stop communism from consuming our nation." you really like to watch at painted backdrops :/ ...
and i dont get why so many "patriots" in the US (espesically those left behind by big corps) still think a social market economy is the same as communism. maybe the leftovers of the anti-communism state propaganda during the coldwar are still fertilizing these wacky ideas?
@blackswordsman thanks for the deep insights into your train of thoughts.
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You are welcome. I will answer any questions I can.
Let me ask you. What have you learned?
Another question I have, is why arn't you blatantly against communism. Communist Journalists were very clear that socialism is the subversive tool to impliment communism. I believe if you are not completely against communism, then you are open to embracing it. The government has no place in regulating our market or our social lives, it is beyond their authority, and they have no place in it. The more they adjust things, and implement, the more screwed up it becomes.
The tragedy is, those that embrace communism will ignore facts, and challenges to it. They can even see the death camps and make excuses. It is only when they too are thrown into the camps that their eyes are opened. Once they have been betrayed, and not a moment before.
It is truely tragic.
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Another question I have, is why arn't you blatantly against communism.
Don't know why you would come to this assumption? Communism works for ants but not for humans. And because some "communist journalist" are saying that socialism is the "entry drug" for communism is just stupid on so many ends...
The government has no place in regulating our market or our social lives, it is beyond their authority, and they have no place in it. The more they adjust things, and implement, the more screwed up it becomes.
That is sth i can debate about... but no time today sry.
The tragedy is, those that embrace communism will ignore facts, and challenges to it. They can even see the death camps and make excuses. It is only when they too are thrown into the camps that their eyes are opened. Once they have been betrayed, and not a moment before.
just a lot of buzzwords thrown together communism, deathcamps ... welp...
maybe you still think present china = communism. if so you are totally wrong.
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"communist journalist" are saying that socialism is the "entry drug" for communism is just stupid on so many ends...
How so? What better source than the tools of the regime itself? They admit the part they played, and their importance. The news is a very important tool for subversion. It is neccessary. They also claim marxism, is another tool as well.
When tasked with seeding countries with the agenda, it is ESSENTIAL to promise people goodies in exchange for credibilty and strengthening politcal power. It is also essential to provide evidence of real goodies during the transformation process. The terrible things only start to surface as power becomes absolute. With the exception of manufactured crises. Like the famines in Russia. It wasn't just bad weather that made people starve, it was the tight restrictions on farm owners and equipment.
"just a lot of buzzwords thrown together communism, deathcamps ... welp...
maybe you still think present china = communism. if so you are totally wrong."
I agree it is something new. It is an efficient blend of communism and fascism. It is horribly invasive, controlling, authoritarian, anti individualist, anti liberty, and iredeemably evil.
I reject China's system completely, and I hope it collapses and the idea lost forever.
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Wow, I walked into this thread and it wound up being a novel of writing. Well at least everyone is talking.
I know Bernie Sanders is on record (3 news stations) claiming "get ready for radical socialism", he will vote against the party if they don't vote with him, and he will pull the president more left than he has ever been. Left got highjacked by Bernie and Bros.
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Bernie is a servant of China. China is a partner of the global elite.
They are going to start dismanteling the constitution soon.
1st and 2nd amendment will be top priority.
The meeting in Davos going on right now is about how the global elite is going to quietly crush humanity into a hivemind and depopulate the planet by 2030.
They are already seeding the agenda to the citizens to disarm/exterminate the patriots and libertarians first. Once they are gone, their list of racists/extremists/public enemies will slowly expand to anyone that will not be a good worker ant.
Bill Gates just bought up a rediculous amount of farmland, He will oversee (Ration) the global food supply. Zuckerberg and Dorsey will oversee information control.
China will oversee Intelligence and global manufacturing.
U.S. military once it is cleansed will be the world police.
People will get their socialism just like they wanted. But they will do everything they are told, they will put into their bodies everything they are told, they will travel where they are told, they will not be permitted to own land, crypto is the only currency that will exist, and people will involunatirly be part of an extreme caste system. No more upward mobility. How you are born is how you will die. Everyone will be equal.
Equally at the lowest place you can possibly be held. Enjoy, I won't be here for it. I will perish with the patriots gladly.
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Rising up is not the right way.
Rolling over isn't either.
All we can do is defend our communities when they come. And they will.
Before that, Liberals and Conservatives need to come together, stay vigilant about holding your government to account. Watch their policies escalate, and understand that when they purge the patriots, they will come for Christians, Bhuddists, Catholics, Muslims, Homosexuals, transgenders, and the liberal too. Anyone who does not whole heartedly support their regime. This will be done in stages.
This Vaccination is not here to save you. It's here to sterilize you, or kill you. Soon they will cripple your life if you don't take it. After that, they may just make you take it out right.
We are at the "Crises" stage of a fascist/communist takeover. From here it descends to either civil war, or occupation.
There is still a small amount of time to turn back the tide. But time is short.
There are two avenues to combating this. Waking people up to the Woke Liberal agenda. And finding faith in God.
Without using liberalism, and without exterminating faith. They cannot succeed.
Family 1st
Community 2nd.
State Last.
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Are you trolling or drunk? I say some dumb shit when I'm on the sauce, which happens from time to time. This sounds like something out of Anders Bering Brevik's manifesto. If your serious, .... your brain is up shit creek without a paddle from what I can tell. And this: " they will come for Christians, Bhuddists, Catholics, Muslims, Homosexuals, transgenders, and the liberal too. Anyone who does not whole heartedly support their regime* .... WHAT?
(Old Spike)
Turn on CNN, or MSNBC.
Listen to Democrat REPRESENTATIVES. AOC being one of them. They are calling for re educations camps, and reprogramming anyone that does not support their ideas.
Even Mitch McConnel (Slimebag) is starting to show signs of panic.
This isn't going in a good direction, and it's gaining a lot of support. Radical anything isn't good. Look how fast the narrative is progressing.
Merkel is throwing anti maskers in camps right now in Germany. It's getting out of hand.
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Who, what and where? Where do you get this..... It would be the front page on every news outlet on the planet. Whatever happens in the US has a tremendous effect on allied countries. This is why we keep such a fucking.. close eye to US politics.
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Here we go. Variety of people calling for this.
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Is this a parody?
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Ok.... what's your take on this particular clip? And what did you mean by "see for your self" Have a feeling I'm being trolled
(Old Spike)
Sorry about that, I didn't watch it. I see what you mean. Boy do I have egg on my face. Last thing I want is a cry wolf situation on something this huge.
However, In Germany all signs are pointing to this as Merkel is planning on detaining covid dissidents in "refugee" camps.
I'll update you when I find something on the states. Sorry again.
DO check this one out though. This is a very good watch, and something to keep your eyes peeled for as the narritive developes.
https://www.spikednation.com/videos/russian-propoganda-specialist-defector-explains-what-happened
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dude seriously - go and seek some mental help. the road you are heading down ... is really scary
(Old Spike)
Afraid I'm going to make some bombs or something? Lol, not my thing.
I use my words, not my fists. If I'm not violent, and I deter others from violence. What does it matter what I believe?
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Beliefs inform actions. Actions affect others. That's why it matters what you believe. Please believe me when I say this is coming from nothing but love. I have a friend who has been my best friend for about 19 years now. We were on the same page with everything (except religion. He is. I'm not). Super smart guy, critical thinker, you name it. Then he lost his 6 month old son to a congenital heart deffect (they couldn't get pregnant naturally so they did IVF twice before it worked). They spent every bit of their savings to have him and he died after 6 months of surgery after surgery. While this would obviously change anyone, he slowly went down a political rabbit hole based solely on the single issue of abortion. Even though it's not a black and white issue, and even though the stats prove that abortion rates are lower under democratic leadership simply because of things like access to birth control, contreceptives, education, etc. He sees it as purely polarized. If you want to keep innocent babies from dying, you're a republican. Otherwise, you're an evil child murdering pedophile.
Over the past couple of years I've seen him diving deeper and deeper into fringe right media like krowder, OANN, Newsmax, etc. and every time he spouts off about what the evil dems are doing he has nothing to show except poorly written articles or short videos that show zero context. At first I asked him about them, showing him the full video that disproves what he was told, or showing him court transcripts that say the opposite of what the lawyers were saying on TV and rather than pay any attention to any actual evidence, simply got angrier and angrier. I have since stopped responding to him when it's political because it always devolves into a rage storm with him. He's in permanent victim mode, is convinced the world is ending, and thinks his best friend is a baby murderer. It breaks my heart every time I talk to him. He's losing his friends and surrounding himself with online anonymous forum users in an echo chamber of vitriol and hate. It's nothing but Whataboutism with him and I'm losing my friend. It's to the point where I feel like I need to make a decision to try one last time to slap some sense into him at the risk of losing him forever because he has become so toxic that it's now affecting me physically.
I only tell you this because I see a lot of the exact same language and fear in your posts. It reminds me a lot of the way he behaves. All I would ask is that you step back for a bit and ask yourself how you physically feel. How do you feel about yourself? How do you feel your behavior has changed over the past few years? Have you always felt this way or is this relatively new? if new, is it for the better? are you becoming happier? a better person?
If the answer is yes to all of this, then by all means keep going down the road you're on.
But if you think I might have even the slightest valid point in all my rambling, I would suggest you try unplugging from the news and social media for a few weeks just as an experiment and see if your feelings and behaviors change.
We are the first generation since the existence of life on this planet to all of a sudden have instant access to all the world's activity and problems and it's too much. We're not equipped to deal with the overload of this much information.
Take it for what it's worth. Down vote me and call me a liberal pussy if you want. Just know that I spent the time to write all of this out specifically for you, because I see some damaging behavior that I see in my best friend and I care about you enough to say something about it.
Peace.
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I won't downvote you, or call you a pussy, I don't believe liberals are evil. Just the opposite. I believe that they are the best of us, and a hope for the future of humanity.
The patriots believe you are the core of what is our duty to protect, not harm. I have always been a patriot. Since I was a child. I looked up to the deeds of people like Washington, Adams, and Jackson.
The history books used to tell us the other side of them. Things that contradict what the education system says about them now. About how Jackson gave up his own horse so the wounded would not be left behind, how at 12 years old he stood up for himself and other prisoners when captured by the british, how he pleaded with the natives to assimilate into American culture, not exterminate them. How racists and british loyalists in government pushed for the trail of tears, and he stayed his hand on it. About how the the first re election was stolen from him by faster witted sophists that represented the interests of the rich and powerful. And once he lost, Martin Van Buren immeadiately enacted that act, and he was furious with them.
I come from a family of united states marines, the least compromising to the new agenda. They don't bend over backwards to accomodate the "needs" of it's members, the members conform to the marines. My uncle fought in Vietnam and cambodia, he saw first hand what communism was doing to the people. After he finished his tour, he started an excavation company, and hired workers of all groups and ethnicity, paid them all well based on their merits and work ethic. He paid them all before he paid himself even.
The education system was tampered with by the liberal agenda, it demonized heroes slowly, discouraged being a an individual, with a goal of creating a hive mind to serve the new world order. I can now see the news is treating individualists as the Kulak. Slowly expanding across types of people. At first the villains were the kkk and neo nazis. And they are the villains.
I fight them on alt tech right now, because I see them taking advantage of this and trying to recruit, it's disgusting and terrifying. Trump supporters at large don't support these people, and that capital assault was a flase flag.
Ask yourself this, if that day was our due process to challenge the election and find closure, why we impede that process? Also, CNN is telling you this assault happened after the speech, it's not true. The assault started before the speech was done. The walk from the podium to the capital is about a mile and a half. There is a time window.
I'm trying my best to show everyone that the news was corrupted, the eucation system was corrupted, the judiciary, politics, all of it.
https://www.spikednation.com/videos/russian-propoganda-specialist-defector-explains-what-happened This man here, helped spread communist propoganda in the 50's in 60's, he supported the regime directly as a journalist. He defected and warned us it was already here. He outlines the process of how this works. I urge everyone to listen to him.
There is nothing wrong with being liberal, as I see it as being benevolent and desiring fair treatment for all. That is what the idea of America was supposed to be about. I just hope that it doesn't make people hate their own who are not liberal, and that they won't choose one group of people over their own right here.
It's easy for me to resort to my differences, and make fun of people and name call. But I realized that doesn't help us understand each other, far from it. Just don't let the news tell you that society is under assault by racists and white supremacists. It's not, they are a minority, and they attach temselves to patriot movements like parasites, and the news loves that.
To them it makes for a sensational story that gets them ratings. I see the news is a big cause of this division. That's why I don't trust most of it.
The news made us support wars, the news made everyone angry with Trump.
Trump is trying to stop communism from consuming our nation. Patriotism and faith are the only way to stop it. Because patriotism and faith allow us to believe in something greater than ourselves. And communism cannot co exist with that.
Also, the difference between liberal people, and liberal agenda, is liberal people are kind and well meaning people. The liberal agenda is the strategy of the elite to use liberals to divide people, destroy patriotism, and slowly make people give ground to the communist regime through subversion, incrementalism, and compromise.
People cannot be subverted if they don't see the threat, and it happens more thouroughly when people embrace it.
We believe many of the same things already, but conservatives progress slowly and carefully, and we wear "politcal mountain shoes" to stop slippery slopes.
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faith in god...
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Faith in God is neccesary to stop communism. and by that I don't mean supporting establishments, churches, or fraudulent televangelists.
True christianity is following the teachings of Christ. The church are the followers, not the building. Communism destroys religion first, people that read bibles in communist countries are imprisoned. Because they will not bow to communism.
One of the fundamental differences between Christianity and other religions like catholosism and islam. Is that if you are persecuted for your faith, those religions tell you it's ok to renounce your faith to save yourself.
Christians must endure. Christ said, if you deny me I will deny you. He also promised he would never put you through more than you can bear.
There are many stories of martyrys that were executed by the catholic church. They were terrified they would be forced to renounce their faith, but God took away their pain, so they would not be forced to do so.
Since I have turned back to Christ. Yes I have, and I am not ashamed. I have been at peace for the first time in my life.
I am comitted to non violence, even in self defence. I'm not afraid of what's coming for me. I am afraid of what the new world order will do to everyone else.
I'm not here to preach, I don't have the authority to do that. Especially because for many years here I have been a terrible example. I can only do what I can from this point forward to try and be a better example.
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"Faith in God is neccesary to stop communism."
So you literally are saying anyone that is not a "believer" is antifa or at least that belief in a fictional character is necessary to save the world from it? Do you realise your extremist muslim brethren think the same?
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It's a several pronged approach. Any 1 of the following is an enemy of communism.
Family 1st
Community 1st.
Faith 1st
Patriotism 1st.
If any or all of those things come before the state, then your mind is innoculated against it. Those are the target groups of communism/fascism marked for destruction. Communism/fascism will not tolerate these things.
We can see how the Muslims, Falune gong, and tibetan bhuddists and Christians are treated in China and North Korea as proof today.
That's what I mean. My personal belief is in Jesus Christ. I believe Islam is a false doctrine. I am not intolerant of other faiths, but I am innoculated against conversion to other faiths. That is my personal view.
It's funny, cause I was thinking of Ninjizz today. I understand what he meant about the dangers of embracing athiesism on societal or mandated scale. Even though we do not share the same faith, I understand it's importance.
A couple of reasons I disagree personally with Islam on a faith level. 1. It permits you to renounce your faith to authorities to escape punishment. 2. It promotes violence on a fundamentalist level. 3. It claims to correct the Torah and the bible.
The old testament permitted violence in certain circumstances. But these weren't decisions you make on your own, these were specific time periods where God commanded it. The exception being Rape, or if your adult son became wicked. He was to be put to death to quell the spread of his influence through out the tribe.
The teachings of Christ do not permit violence, In the new testament it also warns us to be wary of false prophets (Looking at you Copeland) It claims they will suffer the worst for their deeds. The bible also forbids adding to the scriptures.
So how do we deal with translations? Good question. The earliest rendition I know of is the King James Bible. It's also a good idea to pair it with a concordance, which provides hebrew, greek, and aramiac translations. The original languages it was written in.
The NIV bible is updated from Ye old English into modernized english. The issue I have with it is some meanings are changed as a result, so I trust it less.
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"It's a several pronged approach. Any 1 of the following is an enemy of communism.
Family 1st
Community 1st.
Faith 1st
Patriotism 1st."
Now which part of communism do you not get?
The others are constructs that don't negate communism. Kim Yong Un sees himself as a patriot.
Again "Faith 1st" is what your muslim brethren preach. There is little difference between christianity and islam if you take what their holy books say literally, which you must, otherwise you're a hypocrite.
(Old Spike)
Communism doesn't leave room for charity as most barely make enough to eat. It leaves no room for freedom of assembly, or children's programs, or fund raisers for good causes, free discussion of ideas and true fellowship.
The word communism to me just seems like an ironic sophism, much like their arguements for a promised quality of life and a utopia.
I take the bible literally, as that is God's command. The things I don't understand or can't explain requires faith and thoughtful study.
Yes Islam is similar, but it is not quite the same. They do not recognize Jesus as God's son in the flesh. The recognize him as merely a prophet. This is damning according to the bible. It is only through the Sacrifice of Jesus that I am saved. It also requires that I admit I am sinner, and requires that I ask Jesus to be lord of my life, To ask forgiveness for my transgressions and to strive to follow him.
Even as I am imperfect, even as I sin every day. It is impossible not to sin everyday. I must try my best to be aware of sin, do my best to turn from it, and to maintain that relationship of prayer.
It's a tough life to follow, but I have felt immense internal change, and I desire less to be as my old self. It is only through these things that I have realized fighting with everyone was wrong, hurtful and wicked, and why I have humbled myself before you and apologized for what I know I have done and said was wrong.
A few days ago I would have been too proud. and it will always be something I must watch.
One thing I have realized about the vast majority of sin, is that is wicked because it causes problems between us, discord, and fights. I don't view it as so much a list of rules, but guidance as to how best abide with others.
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you know that catholicism is a denomination of christianity, all catholics are christian but not all christians are catholics. then you have a another dozen or so denominations including the polygamist pedophiles latter day saints. so when you say you found jesus. which one? and you got alot of bibles to pick from. is it a white jesus born in the middle east from a virgin in a bible that teachs you to be anti gay?
so when exactly did you find jesus again? was it the day after the inauguration? to me. i see that as a defence mechanism, trying to avoid humility, alot of politians, trump campaign staff, trump administration, people on twitter are doing the same, they went from talking shit to quoting bible verses, praying to god to heal the country and calling for unity.
your stance that faith in god is needed to stop communism is a joke. communism is an idea. ensuring that you don't have to pay people a livable wage gives people that idea.
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The catholic church is a false doctrine, among all the others you mentioned.
It was devised by rome to maintain political power once they realized that they couldn't keep killing christians. It was fused with the greek religion and of course monetized and politiczed. The saints are just a redressing of the greek gods. The bible is clear about not worshipping saints or deities, or even Mary. God despises meaningless ceremony.
I believe in following the teachings directly. and having a personal relationship with Christ through prayer and reading the scriptures.
There is a reason many of us are turning to God, because we believe our nation turning away from God is what is delivering us to enslavement. This happened to the Israelites all through out history. They would turn from God, and civil discourse would break out, and they would be given over to tyrants. It was only when they turned back to God that they would pull through.
There are tons of stories about how their enemies would make blunders, their plans would fall apart, the weather would turn against them, armies would meet in areas of benefit to the Israelites.
No one can deny that Jews are an oppressed people. Even now in Israel itself, they are ruled by tyrants that insist on the oppression of their neighbors. Some even believe the Jewish elite are not actual Jews, just pretenders.
Let me ask you this, what is your definition of humility in the current matters? Submission? Forsaking American values? Giving ourselves over to whichever regime sees fit to dominate us?
At what point do we properly atone? At what point are the so called oppressed satiated? Clearly there must be a goal.
Without a goal it is just abuse. Also, if the other side has won the presidency, the house, and the senate. Why arn't they happy?
Right now, Trump supporters are not the ones burning down cities. We have retreated to our communities and families, we have removed our hand, and we allow everything to take it's course. You can't blame us for the violence happening as we speak.
And communism is an idea that has killed 10's of millions. It has killed even more than wicked doctrine of fascism.
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you didn't answer any of my questions. not which denomination, not which bible or which jesus.
most of what you said is trivial nonsense.
as for what i mean by humility. like being humble. for months people have been making or pushing claims others have been calling good reason, nonsense. after everything is over and nothing that they've said has come to fruition. instead of accepting the comeuppance, these people start quoting bible verses and preaching god like its a harry potter spell that gives protection.
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I did answer That question, in a post above. I read the king James bible.
I am non denominational. The closest I suppose would be baptist. Not to be confused with pentacostle, or southern baptist.
What is our comeuppance supposed to be? How can I apologize for something I am not sorry for?
What am I supposed to be sorry for? For being American? for being a Patriot? For supporting Trump? For challenging the inflammatory news?
I am not sorry for any of those things, and I will not debase you or myself with false apologies.
Nowhere in the king James bible does it claim Jesus is white, and yes homosexuality is a sin. I won't tell others how to live their lives, and I will not be intolerant of those that I share the Earth with, but I will never champion it's cause, and I will never partake in it. I won't judge people for it, treat them poorly, or look down upon them in my heart either.
If you are curious, what is the list of sins. Here they are as outlined in the King James bible.
https://believersportal.com/list-sins-bible/
(Old Spike)
nah, i got everything i need to know about your version of the spaghetti monster in the sky
but i was wondering when you asked me a week ago if i wanted a civil war or if i wanted to go back to how things were when we were kids. when we kids. you could drive drunk, beat your wife and be as racist as you wanted to without any repurcusions. you could pour whatever chemicals you wanted down the drain or into a river/lake knowing people drink from it. didnt matter if it causes cancer, we also didnt have the internet. but what gets me is why is it civil war or we go back to how things were?
(Old Spike)
Real crime is done with your hands, not your tongue.
In the free world crime is punished once it is committed and not a moment before.
Real fear based reasoning is trying to prevent crime rather than punishing it once it happens.
The more involved government makes itself in people's lives the more miserable and truely oppressed society becomes.
(Old Spike)
none of those really explain why its one or the other but i'll say this. bin laden didn't fly any planes and time progresses one way. you either move with it or you get left behind
(Old Spike)
You'll be left behind no matter what you do. You just won't truely understand until it's too late.
And I will explain why. We are at the crises stage of a communist/fascist take over.
A manufactured crises that never needed to happen. Very contrary to Marx theory. It was forced, on purpose, by they that own the world.
Only two outcomes are possible. Civil war, or occupation.
The window of redemption is rapidly closing.
Everyone will make a choice. Freedom, or Life. There is no middle ground. TRUE socialism, is just a honey pot. A fantasy of those that are lazy and those that worship science and technology as their god.
In the end justice will be done, as those that sold themselves to hedonism and lazieness will get the world they deserve.
(Old Spike)
you're an idiot. you're one of those people i've spoken to that fear socialism but have no reason for it and can't explain how it would even get to that point. talking shit about socialism but using our 60 year old socialized health care. like, i have eggs in the fridge, if i'm not carefull i could end up with a cake
(Old Spike)
I don't use healthcare. Or social programs. I told you the reason socialism isn't good. It's a lie to gain political power.
The only reason I take the stimulus, is because I was STRIPPED of my right to work in the first place. That is not a real choice.
Government is not your friend. It doesn't love you, it doesn't care about you, it doesn't exist to protect you.
Government only grows. The more it grows, the more it must control.
Did we become more free in the last 100 hundreds years as individuals? Or less free as individuals?
Also, if government was benevolent, then they are going to pay every penny to those business owners out of business. All the money they lost, and equal to the amount of profit they made in 2019. But no they won't. Not one dime beyond the SCRAPS they offered in relief. The lockdowns were not to protect us lol. They were implemented to destroy businesses and FORCE capitalism to fail. Without the help government capitalism would be alive and well.
What is the value of just 2000 deaths from a virus safer than the flu? over 200 billion dollars apparently.
I don't really know you, but from what I can guess is that you are either in denial, or so deeply programmed against liberty that you are irrecoverable, or that you are actively supporting authoritarianism thinking you will be rewarded.
In 4 years, you have gone from a quiet, and level headed, seemingly non partisan person, to nearly foaming at the mouth to anyone that opposes socialism. Especially me. You go out of your way to go after me. Why? Probably because I am firm in my beliefs, and now a spiritual person. I no longer fear death, or ruin. I think that disturbes you. Right Dan?
Either way, once you have served your purpose you will be thrown away like garbage. Guaranteed. Whether it's the vaxx that will kill you, or the regime in a few years once it's power is absolute.
I don't wish any of that upon you, but I know your future. Just as well as I know mine.
The difference between you and I, is I will die free.
(Old Spike)
you said a month ago you had the orange and white health card. canada/ontario didnt hand those out to tourists. i doubt you opted out and you'd be at our hospitals saying you want to pay out of pocket.
as for the government caring for you. the police and the fire department. they have a tendency to show up when needed. like them or not but you also have the cia/csis, fbi/rcmp and any of the branches of the military, pretty sure people signed up to protect people. also, any country with socialized healthcare says different. those countries don't make you go bankrupt to stay alive.
government grows because population grows.
how would even compare a 100 years ago to now. instead of taking 3 months to get across america by horseback you can do it a 4 hours by plane, 2 days by car. you don't even have to leave. you can communicate with anyone in the world instantaneously. so yea, we've become more free as individuals in the last 100 years, especialy women. they only got the right to vote in the 100 years.
well, canada's giving out $60k partially forgivable interest free loans. then you can also sign up for ei and get 2k month. our government is giving what you need to survive, its not giving you money for a vacation. if you can't make your mortgage, banks will deffer the payment. can't pay you're rent, pretty sure you can call someone and get that solved, judges aren't willing to evict people and electric companies can't turn off the juice because the government says so.
i still can't believe its still an arguement. you have the option to stop another flu from taking hold and how ever many variantions that spin off from that from being an additional seasonal flu's. you want to talk money? how much do you think your life is worth?
over the last 4 years i'd say i'm pretty much the same. you've just never had me looking over your shoulder.
i don't get calling me dan, i worked really hard to get him to kick me. seems pointless when i could have just kicked myself out whenever i wanted to instead of gambling on another mod choosing how long i'd be gone for.
you know what the difference between you and i? it's that you talk nonsense backed up by bullshit and when that doesn't work out the way you hoped you turn to the bible and let jesus take the wheel. you trade one false set of beliefs for another hoping it will change an unknown outcome
(Old Spike)
Orange and whites arn't accepted anymore. (Which is unlawful) and the person in gov that cancelled it should be charged with fraud. It caused problems getting my test results when I thought I had this puny virus. So no. I have no healthcare.
The reason government is paying people is because if they didn't there would be an outright revolt. The problem with UBI or government money is if you don't do what they say, they can take your money, and with no other way to work, the alternatives are starvation, pan handling, and crime.
Police show up very much when they are not needed or welcome too. If there were less officers, or they weren't strapped with military hardware, they would indeed only be showing up when needed. Welfare caused more problems than it fixed, disability never paid enough to the REAL people that need help. We still don't have enough hospitals, Mental health is constantly taking a backseat in society, Yet members of government love buying 30'000 dollar paintings to hang in their chambers. Upgrading the police in milspec hardware, and over paying and overstaffing them in cities which have relatively low amounts of violent crime
60K is peanuts compared to hundreds of thousands to millions of lost dollars in small business. They aren't paying that back to them. And a loan is not the same as FULL compensation. Another means to get what few small businesses that are left in debt for an economy that is never going to fully re open again. No agenda there.
The world is reacting to this virus like it is a flesh eating cloud blanketing humanity, when it has killed less than the flue. And the vulnerable in nursing homes ARE STILL DYING.
Everything is reopening in the states because Trump is out of office, and various representaives are facing recall. Not because things are better and case numbers are down. They were just holding the nation hostage, because Trump was dismantling the establishment stranglehold on the people. When Biden said Trump did alot of damage, what he meant was he made everyone more free from their wickedness.
Looking over my shoulder? How self righteous of you.
You worked so hard. Poor you. Play the victim.
My "Nonesense" Comes from a time before education was almost completely state controlled.
One of the biggest atrocities the government can make is control education, because it decides what the truth is. Which is rarely the truth, or the whole truth. Instead they tell you the information that benefits their plan to control you by taking credit for fixing problems it did not fix, but definitely caused in the first place.
We gave women the right to vote. Thumbs up.
We have no right to bear arms, no right to self defence, no right to work, rediculous college and university requirements to do menial jobs that don't require this level of schooling. Again another ploy to get people in debt and pay the monster. Your diploma doesn't represent how knowledgable you are in your field. It represents how well you follow instructions. The school system exists these days to turn individuals into worker ants.
No freedom of assembly, and are told to stay in our homes or ELSE.
How much is my life worth? Not my freedom. "Those that would trade freedom for a moments security deserve neither nor shall have it" -Thomas Jefferson.
Your sophistry would be shocking if I didn't realize the liberal agenda is to remove you as far from reality as possible. The further you are from reality, the less power the truth has in your mind.
You play right into their hands. And when the government boot comes down on your neck THEN you will see.
I feel really bad for you, because you will feel more betrayed than I ever will.
(Old Spike)
orange and white means your a citizen, doesn't matter if they don't accept it anymore, you probably swaped it for a new one by now, doesn't really matter cause you don't even need one, they wont refuse you at the hospital
if you tell people to stay home, you have to pay them. if they can't go to work they stay home and they get odsp. if they can't go to work and have to stay home they get welfare. thats a ubi and they'll never turn the tap off for them by threatning them to vote a certain way. at most they offer more if they vote a certain way,
small business' in canada make less than 500k, i see no reason to give them a million dollars for being closed for a month. pay your rent.
its an additional flu. it doesnt replace the existing one. its means more people will die every year because people didnt want to wear a mask
whatever educutional system you came from is a prime example of why it failed and had to be changed.
schools make sure you know the basics of your field and government controlled is probably better, you don't have for profit schools ripping kids off.
i'm not part of any agenda, if you were on the oppossite spectrum talking about how socialism is the only way and religion had to be killed and i'd be here rediculing the same way but with different points from the other side.
i don't feel bertrayed, i feel...
(Old Spike)
No I didn't swap. I'm not paying to renew my card when my first one was given to me without an expirey date. Maybe they won't refuse me, I haven't had to go the hospital in 10 years so I'll find out when it happens.
They took my mother's card when she used it last, and because she didn't memorize the number she had to replace it.
They won't control you by telling you how to vote, they already purge the ballots here. Maxime Bernier is actually who won, and they punished him by purging his ballots, removing his 1 remaining seat, and calling him a fascist. Same thing they did to Trump.
For what? Wanting CONTROLLED immigration, veteran care, and gun rights for citizens. So evil right?
If a business doesn't make millions, then no it shouldn't be compensated millions. But these businesses should be paid what they made in 2019 to reflect an average of what they were likely to make in 2020 which would be the closest comparable metric without fully knowing what they would have made.. Instead they offered them more chances to get into debt, only paaid a fraction of worker wages, and destroyed their influx of business.
We shouldn't have to stay home anyway. It's a violation of our bill of rights, and I do not recall an announcement of the "Notwithstanding clause" Which is fascist anyway.
Yes, you do have to pay people if you do that, because they will burn your country down if they don't. Funny how mass starvation and poverty histoircally causes that.
The reason my education system failed is because foreign exchange students from communist countries came over here in the 50's and occupied our places of higher education and government and began subverting our values and education system. Causing a death spiral of our patriotic culture.
Even Some Big pharma companies Such as Merck have halted vaccine development because they claim it makes more sense to just get the virus and get it over with. People are dying all over the place from the Phizer and Moderna vaccines. Some within minutes of taking it.
(Old Spike)
"Trump is trying to stop communism from consuming our nation." you really like to watch at painted backdrops :/ ...
and i dont get why so many "patriots" in the US (espesically those left behind by big corps) still think a social market economy is the same as communism. maybe the leftovers of the anti-communism state propaganda during the coldwar are still fertilizing these wacky ideas?
@blackswordsman thanks for the deep insights into your train of thoughts.
(Old Spike)
You are welcome. I will answer any questions I can.
Let me ask you. What have you learned?
Another question I have, is why arn't you blatantly against communism. Communist Journalists were very clear that socialism is the subversive tool to impliment communism. I believe if you are not completely against communism, then you are open to embracing it. The government has no place in regulating our market or our social lives, it is beyond their authority, and they have no place in it. The more they adjust things, and implement, the more screwed up it becomes.
The tragedy is, those that embrace communism will ignore facts, and challenges to it. They can even see the death camps and make excuses. It is only when they too are thrown into the camps that their eyes are opened. Once they have been betrayed, and not a moment before.
It is truely tragic.
(Old Spike)
Don't know why you would come to this assumption? Communism works for ants but not for humans. And because some "communist journalist" are saying that socialism is the "entry drug" for communism is just stupid on so many ends...
That is sth i can debate about... but no time today sry.
just a lot of buzzwords thrown together communism, deathcamps ... welp...
maybe you still think present china = communism. if so you are totally wrong.
(Old Spike)
"communist journalist" are saying that socialism is the "entry drug" for communism is just stupid on so many ends...
How so? What better source than the tools of the regime itself? They admit the part they played, and their importance. The news is a very important tool for subversion. It is neccessary. They also claim marxism, is another tool as well.
When tasked with seeding countries with the agenda, it is ESSENTIAL to promise people goodies in exchange for credibilty and strengthening politcal power. It is also essential to provide evidence of real goodies during the transformation process. The terrible things only start to surface as power becomes absolute. With the exception of manufactured crises. Like the famines in Russia. It wasn't just bad weather that made people starve, it was the tight restrictions on farm owners and equipment.
"just a lot of buzzwords thrown together communism, deathcamps ... welp...
maybe you still think present china = communism. if so you are totally wrong."
I agree it is something new. It is an efficient blend of communism and fascism. It is horribly invasive, controlling, authoritarian, anti individualist, anti liberty, and iredeemably evil.
I reject China's system completely, and I hope it collapses and the idea lost forever.
(Long Spike)
Wow, I walked into this thread and it wound up being a novel of writing. Well at least everyone is talking.
I know Bernie Sanders is on record (3 news stations) claiming "get ready for radical socialism", he will vote against the party if they don't vote with him, and he will pull the president more left than he has ever been. Left got highjacked by Bernie and Bros.
(Old Spike)
Bernie is a servant of China. China is a partner of the global elite.
They are going to start dismanteling the constitution soon.
1st and 2nd amendment will be top priority.
The meeting in Davos going on right now is about how the global elite is going to quietly crush humanity into a hivemind and depopulate the planet by 2030.
They are already seeding the agenda to the citizens to disarm/exterminate the patriots and libertarians first. Once they are gone, their list of racists/extremists/public enemies will slowly expand to anyone that will not be a good worker ant.
Bill Gates just bought up a rediculous amount of farmland, He will oversee (Ration) the global food supply. Zuckerberg and Dorsey will oversee information control.
China will oversee Intelligence and global manufacturing.
U.S. military once it is cleansed will be the world police.
People will get their socialism just like they wanted. But they will do everything they are told, they will put into their bodies everything they are told, they will travel where they are told, they will not be permitted to own land, crypto is the only currency that will exist, and people will involunatirly be part of an extreme caste system. No more upward mobility. How you are born is how you will die. Everyone will be equal.
Equally at the lowest place you can possibly be held. Enjoy, I won't be here for it. I will perish with the patriots gladly.