the video hasn't borne out the title, it's just a jumbled mess of suggestive anecdotes with no sources & thin reasoning for why tiktok is special.
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Pdub (Old Spike)
He did kind of lose what he was talking about. There was some propaganda jabbing at the algorithm as if it was trying to dumb down(like they can get any dumber) western kids vs showing tech and innovation in the east. But that does not necessarily mean that it is on purpose. It may actually be adapting what the western kids normally click on and search for. Or it could be the default and they override it in the east to steer their herd. Or that's what their kids are more interested in, and everything else is just made up to cause controversy.
I think he is spot on with some of the phenomenons that cause us to trigger each other in some way or another. Kids tend to follow anything that is presented to them from people or platforms that they like, and many adults do, too.
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yeah I don't disagree with all of his points but most apply to social media in general.
"it could be the default and they override it in the east to steer their herd"
Yeah they do a bunch of things with Douyin (China's TikTok) which I'm still learning the details of. China govt has a hate boner for excessive internet usage (social media & games mainly), they often talk about it as an opium of the masses & they take a lot of measures to protect kids from the physical & psychological effects of it - limiting usage, requiring a guardian for them to signup etc. I'll try to find out what I can about any content moderation the govt is involved with there. There's nothing stopping any govt from doing this with TikTok btw. The only case I know of where US govt manipulated TikTok content was by reaching out to popular users on there & briefing them on the Ukraine situation to get them on message early this year.
I'm taking a look at this paper by some anti-China academics... they don't seem to have much evidence of large scale manipulation & the govt-associated users on there mainly do non-political stuff - https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3794898
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(Site Administrator)
the video hasn't borne out the title, it's just a jumbled mess of suggestive anecdotes with no sources & thin reasoning for why tiktok is special.
(Old Spike)
He did kind of lose what he was talking about. There was some propaganda jabbing at the algorithm as if it was trying to dumb down(like they can get any dumber) western kids vs showing tech and innovation in the east. But that does not necessarily mean that it is on purpose. It may actually be adapting what the western kids normally click on and search for. Or it could be the default and they override it in the east to steer their herd. Or that's what their kids are more interested in, and everything else is just made up to cause controversy.
I think he is spot on with some of the phenomenons that cause us to trigger each other in some way or another. Kids tend to follow anything that is presented to them from people or platforms that they like, and many adults do, too.
(Site Administrator)
yeah I don't disagree with all of his points but most apply to social media in general.
"it could be the default and they override it in the east to steer their herd"
Yeah they do a bunch of things with Douyin (China's TikTok) which I'm still learning the details of. China govt has a hate boner for excessive internet usage (social media & games mainly), they often talk about it as an opium of the masses & they take a lot of measures to protect kids from the physical & psychological effects of it - limiting usage, requiring a guardian for them to signup etc. I'll try to find out what I can about any content moderation the govt is involved with there. There's nothing stopping any govt from doing this with TikTok btw. The only case I know of where US govt manipulated TikTok content was by reaching out to popular users on there & briefing them on the Ukraine situation to get them on message early this year.
I'm taking a look at this paper by some anti-China academics... they don't seem to have much evidence of large scale manipulation & the govt-associated users on there mainly do non-political stuff - https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3794898
They do speculate that the govt has a hand in manipulating trending topics but have no evidence of it. Meanwhile we have spooks crawling all over our big tech companies in the content moderation departments - https://www.mintpressnews.com/meet-ex-cia-agents-deciding-facebook-content-policy/281307/
be good if they cared as much about kids' brains as they do about waging war.. #priorities
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Wouldn't surprise me, placebo works both ways.
(Old Spike)
Monkey sees monkey does, applies here